Pro's and Con's of Super Singles

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Blackducati750, May 29, 2009.

  1. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    A little snow or rain doesn't have me pulling over. That's an excuse for company drivers to slack, IMO.

    Not all wide singles are created equal. Michelin XDN2's have the rolling resistance of a squared-off block of granite. I run XOne XDA energy's... great fuel mileage.
     
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  3. Gasienica

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    I run the xzn3 on steers xdn2 energies on the drives duals and hsr2 on the trailer spread dual

    Then I have the same steers xdone enery for the drives singles and the enery ones for the trailer on singles. The singles are sitting at home till august as I'll put them on and give them a try again. Then sell em after I use them up.

    I run 80k for the most part almost 4000 maybe little over miles a week running west so 75-80mph except where posted less.

    http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...hteen-wheelers/122853-super-single-tires.html
    Two threads about this. Lol.
     
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  4. ironpony

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  5. Gasienica

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    I know all about that. Talked to a lot of Michelin sales reps at shows and went on the website myself. The fuel savings the website showed me is not what my wallet showed me at the pumps when I had them on.

    Don't have nothing against them just don't see the benefit to switching over to them if you have a nice set of low rolling resistance and energy saving duals on. I like the ss for their look and smother ride but fuels savings wise I see no diffrence in my set up.
     
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  6. ironpony

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    I'd agree... no sense in switching unless you can find a deal. I saw a good deal of savings when I moved over to the low-rolling resistance tires on my last tractor that had duals on it. The one I'm in now has wide singles from the git go, and gets good fuel mileage. The best mileage I get comes when I have one of our trailers with singles and the side skirts. Worst... duals, but they're putting caps on them too.
     
  7. Gasienica

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    I never run caps, the speeds and weight and my stopping intervals don't mix well. I'd be loosing caps left and right.

    I bought my ss as a great deal as take offs from a whole combo. Drives and trailers with the michelins already mounted on them. Dunno if I'd ever put those side skirts on as I pull a 48' spread and don't see the need to, Cali only want them on 53'.

    I pulled the side skirts of the t600 as they were annoying me. Still have to pull the tanks more under sleeper and put a battery box on side and tool box on other side for steps.
     
  8. Bigelk1990

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    I'd say this guy is lying through his teeth or is very lucky he had such good luck with the super singles! I am on a milk route in Central Minnesota pulling tanker semi trailers. The company I work for. Has wide base super singles on all the drive wheels with full lockers and diff lock! We had a driver stop in the middle of an ice road with the milk sloshing back-and-forth push the truck down into the ditch? Another one of our drivers with nearly 40 years experience was going up the highway came upon some cars in the ditch, he went to slow down his trailer started to pass him up! he didn't know until it's too late and then sucked them into the ditch and rolled over! He was empty on super single drives and trailer tires! Lost his job! From my experience in the other drivers that drive with I would not recommend them on any ice or snow! I got stuck one Saturday three times in the same day on your level ground partially loaded! None of the drivers want to go out in any of the bad weather now! They say it's too dangerous with the super singles! I'd say they be good tire for I-8 in Cali or I-4 in The sunshine State! Definitely not a North Land unless you're a Fairweather driver only!
     
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  9. ironpony

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    I'd say you don't have the cajones to accuse me of such things to my face. True account... happened about 3 years ago. I've run wide singles since, no problems all 47 real states... I don't do California, including the northern tier, all weather conditions.
     
  10. double yellow

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    I drove duals for a year and a half with two companies. Then singles on a tag axle for a year and a half with another company. Now I'm an owner op and I just converted from duals to singles.

    No question that duals are better in rain & snow -- that gap between tires allows the tread to channel in both directions whereas slush in the center of a single has a long way to go to be thrown clear of the tire. That said, tread design matters more -- in the snow, I'd take XDN singles over energy D duals... As for (unmelted) ice, I haven't noticed much difference.

    But even if you run single energy d's, as I do (in all 48), there is no excuse for sticking it in the ditch. It is the job of the driver to stay within the operational capabilities of his equipment.

    As for the pros -- better ride, 500lb savings over aluminum duals, & a few ticks better mpg... Oh and its easier to chain & faster to check tire pressures...
     
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  11. Rug_Trucker

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    How many snow plows run the SS's?



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