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Old 11.17.2007
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No thanks, my wife is always telling me don't push it to get home. Seems like I recall her saying something like that a few hours before I got put OOS!
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No thanks, my wife is always telling me don't push it to get home. Seems like I recall her saying something like that a few hours before I got put OOS!
My wife has told me that too. She doesn't understand what not sleeping a night in the truck means.
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My wife has told me that too. She doesn't understand what not sleeping a night in the truck means.

esp when you are 111 miles from the house!
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Again I don't disagree with it, but I wish you would understand the concern I have for you drivers. It isn't just me being on the "other side". I have been doing this for 20 years and I LEARN ALLOT from you guys and I also learn ALLOT from lawsuits passing my desk. So I just "TRY" to relay the legal information to you guys because I don't want to see anyone not UNDERSTAND what will happen if they do it. Hey if you chose to do it and you get by with it, it's all game I understand that. I still have to preach the correct way for those who may not be told what can happen

Some drivers aren't told why they must log legal and what can happen if they don't. So again I just try to save you prison time and from you giving the state money.

Take my information for what it's worth and prey you don't get caught if you don't take my information. I probably will never know the outcome anyhow That is the sad part not knowing why someone disappeared around here?
I do understand your concern and the legalities of it all (for the most part). I understand it enough to know that if I get caught with an illegal log book, the least that will happen is money coming outta my pocket. The worst that could happen is not something I keep in the forefront of my mind. That's not to say that I'm not aware of it, I just don't want to think about it.

I've mentioned before that it's a law of averages.

3,000,000+ trucks on the road on any given day.

Approx 1,000 serious accidents (just a rough guess).

Combine those stats with the fact that I've shown my logbook to a law enforcement officer 7 times in over four years.

Again, I'm not condoning running illegal or at all trying to glamorize it. I'm just stating the reasons why I have done it.
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I too do not condone running wild. I am not saying to try to run 6000 miles solo. What I am saying is if you run 100% legal you will never get home and might take home $300 a week. Would you stay out here for months at a time for 50 bucks a day? It is easy to say one thing if you have never done it. If it takes 7 hours to load you just cut your day in half if you log it that way.
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Most of the shippers and receivers I have went to wasted most of 14 hour window. The effect of this reduces the amount of hours you have available to even make a living. There were many times that if you were legal, you would make only 35 to 50 dollars a day, the load would be late and the company would be down your throat. Now as far as home time would go, you would never get any time at home. Let alone the supposed 34 hour restart they think you got during 18 hours at home.
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I do understand your concern and the legalities of it all (for the most part). I understand it enough to know that if I get caught with an illegal log book, the least that will happen is money coming outta my pocket. The worst that could happen is not something I keep in the forefront of my mind. That's not to say that I'm not aware of it, I just don't want to think about it.

I've mentioned before that it's a law of averages.

3,000,000+ trucks on the road on any given day.

Approx 1,000 serious accidents (just a rough guess).

Combine those stats with the fact that I've shown my logbook to a law enforcement officer 7 times in over four years.

Again, I'm not condoning running illegal or at all trying to glamorize it. I'm just stating the reasons why I have done it.

Ok let me tell you this! It is more of a coincendtal "sp?" that you will be in an accident at any given time. Now lets say this happens to you:

You are driving behind a semi and that semi swerves over to avoid a car that is going 10 miles on the interstate and then you have NO time to react, however you are going the average speed limit and you crash into that car. What do you think everyone wants to know? Was the driver legal at the time of the scene. Well if you are not legal then you are at fault.
The point of being legal and accidents is:

Accidents happen, you do not plan them. If you are running illegal at the time of the accident and someone is killed you could/will be held for vehicular manslaughter.

Guys the Feds & cops are getting more serious about catching you all running illegal and I hate for any of my forum friends to be typing me from jail (which I hope you would at least give me that respect to let others know I was trying to help you & to let me know what happend to you).

Now the odds, I do agree with you and if that's how you want to look at it, that's fine with me as I have nothing to gain or lose from telling you "accidents happen". Ok so we are all friends here and we all love each other (ok so maybe we don't LOVE each other, but we care) so you will # least give me the respect in telling me when something goes wrong with your logs/legal issues, ok! Just so I can feel like I am trying and because someone doesn't listen they will know in the long run why I tried.

I just want to be appreciated for trying and trying to keep you out of trouble (GOSH I AM SO MUCH A MOM, HUH).

Ok run outlaw everyone!
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Most of the shippers and receivers I have went to wasted most of 14 hour window. The effect of this reduces the amount of hours you have available to even make a living. There were many times that if you were legal, you would make only 35 to 50 dollars a day, the load would be late and the company would be down your throat. Now as far as home time would go, you would never get any time at home. Let alone the supposed 34 hour restart they think you got during 18 hours at home.

If they ruin most of your 14 hour clock then you could use the split break exception.

The problem is many drivers do not understand or refuse to split break when in deed they should understand it and use it to their advantage.

AGain another thing I don't have to teach or preach, but I do to help you drivers understand your regulations to make money .

Grrrr no one will listen to me
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I too do not condone running wild. I am not saying to try to run 6000 miles solo. What I am saying is if you run 100% legal you will never get home and might take home $300 a week. Would you stay out here for months at a time for 50 bucks a day? It is easy to say one thing if you have never done it. If it takes 7 hours to load you just cut your day in half if you log it that way.

Ok so I have never done it, however I know you can average 10 hours a day of driving (if the freight is there) and some days you can average 13 hours of driving time a day and take a 34 and be on the road again!

the point is, many drivers refuse to understand the regulations and some just want to run as hard as they can (killing themselves)

SPLIT BREAKING IS THE RULE!
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If they ruin most of your 14 hour clock then you could use the split break exception.

The problem is many drivers do not understand or refuse to split break when in deed they should understand it and use it to their advantage.

AGain another thing I don't have to teach or preach, but I do to help you drivers understand your regulations to make money .

Grrrr no one will listen to me
This was the company that would not allow any split breaking.

The dispatcher would say we don't want you to run illegal, but a majority of the loads required it. I no longer work for them for that reason.

PS.. I was a DOT Superintendent for a company. Reviewed logs, truck records and dealt with the DOT. Well aware of the laws. But even while I was there telling the drivers what the law required, the company president was saying... That what the law says, but you know what we want done to make money.

I had to refuse loads through safety because of the dispatch.

The companies have the focus on freight delivery not driver safety and legal logs.
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