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wallbanger · **^ Top** #41 03.25.2008

Sure TM, HitAndRun was upset at TooTall (read the explanation a few responses up).

islandboy_671 · **^ Top** #42 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by D16

I believe it's your fault,you must check your mirrors often.

I have to agree here. You left tooo much room on the right to allow a car to get in there.

islandboy_671 · **^ Top** #43 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by Too-Tall

i do watch my mirrors often. i should explain the situation a bit more. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

with tandems full to the rear the blue line indicates the path my tractor must make. when i have to enter the oncoming lane of traffic i have to switch my focus to oncoming traffic to make sure i have the room to complete the manuver. its either mirror or oncoming traffic. if u dont take it wide enough ur tandems ride up a jersy barrier and ur sol it has to be perfect. as you can see its onlane on teh bridge going out. why did he think he was going to get by me.

so dont pin this #### on me. i #### up i admit it. but it was either mirror or oncoming traffic. i only got 2 eyes. i watched my mirror the entire time until i had to look straight at the traffic. he snuck in when i was looking straight. by this time the trailer was alredy well on its way back. he had to of known where the trailer was going to go!

How much experience did you have prior to this?

islandboy_671 · **^ Top** #44 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by bigjuniortrucker

According to what i can tell from the picture, it should have been the 4 wheeler's fault, with no questions asked. There is no turning lane. The car should not be there! My father was involved in something like this about 12-13 years ago. Sitting at the light waiting to make a right hand turn and a car came up beside him. It ended up sitting in his blind spot. He took off and hit the front end of the car. He said he never felt it, just heard the stuff cracking. He stopped. When the cops got there they said there is no turning lane so it doesn't matter if you had your turn signal on or not it is the 4 wheelers fault!
That being said this all sucks. And you can't ever assume that the darn 4 wheeler knows what you are doing or where the trailer is going to go. They aren't educated enough to understand all of this! Good luck TooTall!

That doesnt matter. Your father left too much room to allow the car to get by.

bigjuniortrucker · **^ Top** #45 03.26.2008

OH i see he is supposed to run over the curb then! Because where he was you can stay in the lane where you are supposed to be and make the turn or you can hug the corner more and run over the curb and posibly take out the village signs. Yeah i guess your right that is what should of happened!

islandboy_671 · **^ Top** #46 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by bigjuniortrucker

OH i see he is supposed to run over the curb then! Because where he was you can stay in the lane where you are supposed to be and make the turn or you can hug the corner more and run over the curb and posibly take out the village signs. Yeah i guess your right that is what should of happened!

Your setting yourself up for problems leaving room to pass on the right. Remember that no one likes to be behind a big truck.

bigjuniortrucker · **^ Top** #47 03.26.2008

I know this, but it is illegal to be farther to the right than what he was. So what are you supposed to do? You can hug the right, run over the curb, posibly take out the village sign, posibly get a ticket for just being over to the right. Or you can sit in the lane of traffic that is there and make your right hand turn. I have made the same turn many times. I have had a couple of cars come up on my right there and have let them go because i noticed them. But he didn't at that time. So you tell me, what are you supposed to do at the intersection then?

notarps4me · **^ Top** #48 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by drive55cat

Buttonhooks and wide rights are illegal, get directions to come from the other way, or take the time to do it yourself. Heres the deal, your DM won't go to jail, your company won't go to jail but if you hurt or kill a person, you get to go to jail. Maybe for a long time. Call your safety dept. The management and the safety dept. do not always agree with each other. Think about that.

There is one problem with that. Most times you do good to get directions that even get you to the place you are going. Now you are really going to stump them. Hello; I am coming in with a big truck. Can I make all the turns that you mentioned or do I need to re-route? Wouldn't happen to be any low bridges, sharp right hand turns or stupid people driving in your neighborhood would there? Is there any way that I can tell you where I am and you come get this stuff off my trailer???

Ducks · **^ Top** #49 03.26.2008

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Originally Posted by notarps4me

There is one problem with that. Most times you do good to get directions that even get you to the place you are going. Now you are really going to stump them. Hello; I am coming in with a big truck. Can I make all the turns that you mentioned or do I need to re-route? Wouldn't happen to be any low bridges, sharp right hand turns or stupid people driving in your neighborhood would there? Is there any way that I can tell you where I am and you come get this stuff off my trailer???

You know -- you're right, Tarps. Just a few weeks ago a driver called in asking for directions. He got great directions -- for a car -- from one of the women in our office. Trouble was, he had 48' behind him. I'm surprised he managed to get to us via that route (the last turn must've been a killer), but he did -- only to get into the wrong driveway and needing to back out. He was pretty fired up by that time... and I happened to be walking between buildings when I saw him pull in.

After a bit of, shall we say "venting", he told me what he needed to do to get out of there and sent me out to stop traffic to allow him the time and space.

So... if a driver needs to call for directions, it probably wouldn't hurt to ask those questions.

wallbanger · **^ Top** #50 03.26.2008

Or when asking for directions explain as nicely as you can that you are in a BIG truck, or talk to shipping and receiving; they end up giving out directions every day, and tend to have decent ones.
[Notice I said TEND...]

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