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Heres the deal. I got charged with attempted felonious assault. Im not sure if its a high misdemeanor or a felony since its attempted. My question is are there companys that hire felons? I got 2 years probation for it and the po said i could only leave the state for a funeral or if it had to do with work. I think it would be ok if i was working. I just don't want to put all the time and effort into being trained and then not find a company that will hire me. Any help is appreciated.
YOU need to call the Court house where you were convicted...and ask for the Court records on your case.
They will tell you the outcome.

OR ask your probation officer about your case.
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I do not know what you had for a lawyer..But that could have been dropped to a Simple assault witch would have no effect on your life what so ever...

I think you got hosed my self
I had one of the best lawyers around here. I paid 10,000 just for district court. The original charge was assault with attempt to murder. I know i could have beat it at trial and probably got off completely but i would have to pay him 50,000 to go to trial at circuit court. They didnt have enough evidence to charge me with that so they gave me a plea. If i had the 50 grand i would have been able to get off for sure. But i couldnt afford that so i just took the plea. He could have done better for me but theres not much i can do about it now. Im sure he could have got it thrown out before it went to trial but they are all about the money.
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I had one of the best lawyers around here. I paid 10,000 just for district court. The original charge was assault with attempt to murder. I know i could have beat it at trial and probably got off completely but i would have to pay him 50,000 to go to trial at circuit court. They didnt have enough evidence to charge me with that so they gave me a plea. If i had the 50 grand i would have been able to get off for sure. But i couldnt afford that so i just took the plea. He could have done better for me but theres not much i can do about it now. Im sure he could have got it thrown out before it went to trial but they are all about the money.

If they did not have enough evidence the case should have been dropped..

My God what is wrong with the courts I swear they would convict a Ham and Cheese sandwich if they knew they could get away with it..
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Hilltop -

It's standard practice to file a lesser charge in the court if the prosecutor doesn't think he can win the higher charge.. higher charges are .. typically supersets of the lesser charges, for want of a better way to explain it.
It's easier to prove the lesser charge

in this case, assault with attempt to murder, there's the word "murder". A charge of murder includes, explicitly, intent: Planning, forethought - intent to leave another person dead.

Felonious assault - I would assume - probably includes planning, forethought, and intent, but the intent to murder could not be proved.

See the difference?

Note - I'm using these charges as examples, drawn from the current conversation. Since I am not a lawyer, this should absolutely not be taken as legal advice.

Biggflint - as I said, IANAL, and others have said your PO should know. They're right. Your PO may be a complete newbie, but if he/she doesn't know off the top of the head, it SHOULD be in your file. However, I'm not afraid to stick my head in the noose. I'm willing to bet that the Felonious Assault is also a Felony.

It doesn't mean you can't get a job trucking - but it might be best if you kept your focus on local companies.
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Hilltop -

It's standard practice to file a lesser charge in the court if the prosecutor doesn't think he can win the higher charge.. higher charges are .. typically supersets of the lesser charges, for want of a better way to explain it.
It's easier to prove the lesser charge

in this case, assault with attempt to murder, there's the word "murder". A charge of murder includes, explicitly, intent: Planning, forethought - intent to leave another person dead.

Felonious assault - I would assume - probably includes planning, forethought, and intent, but the intent to murder could not be proved.

See the difference?

Note - I'm using these charges as examples, drawn from the current conversation. Since I am not a lawyer, this should absolutely not be taken as legal advice.

Biggflint - as I said, IANAL, and others have said your PO should know. They're right. Your PO may be a complete newbie, but if he/she doesn't know off the top of the head, it SHOULD be in your file. However, I'm not afraid to stick my head in the noose. I'm willing to bet that the Felonious Assault is also a Felony.

It doesn't mean you can't get a job trucking - but it might be best if you kept your focus on local companies.


And that is a very good point..How long were you in law school for?..
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Never. I just have an... interesting circle of friends
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Never. I just have an... interesting circle of friends



.........LMAO...Haven't we all at one point in time....

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I can relate to that one.....
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With a word like "felonious" in it, I would imagine it is a felony. There are a lot of companies that hire people with felonies, but most have a 2-10 year waiting period before hiring you. Look at each company's web site and where it talks about DUI, and moving violations, it usually lists whether or no they hire felons. Your probation officer would definitely be able to tell you if it is a felony or not. Good luck to you!
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