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    Just an update as I have done alot more research and talked to several state motor carrier divisions and the federal carrier saftey administration.
    You can drive a semi without a cdl with no miliage restrictions. No log book, no pre trip or post trip inspections required. You must roll through scales that apply.....some say commercial trucks which you would not roll through and others say all vehicles over 5 tons must enter which you would have to roll through.
    It basically comes down to the commercial thing. If you haul your own stuff and that stuff will not be sold at anytime or you will not win anything with what is being hauled, you do not need the cdl. But, if their is any type of commercial activity then you do.
    What is interesting in my case is that I have been audited by the IRS within the past 3 years and they have determined for me that my horse business is not a business, it is a hobby. So even though I haul horses to shows where I compete for $ and from time to time I haul a horse or 2 that I have sold for $ to the new owners, it is not considered a commercial activity as I can not write any of it off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tmlonghorns View Post
    What is interesting in my case is that I have been audited by the IRS within the past 3 years and they have determined for me that my horse business is not a business, it is a hobby. So even though I haul horses to shows where I compete for $ and from time to time I haul a horse or 2 that I have sold for $ to the new owners, it is not considered a commercial activity as I can not write any of it off.
    I run into something similar where Florida considers me a non-resident for property tax purposes, but the federal government considers me a resident for tax purposes. My immigration status is a skilled worker visa, but not yet a green card (and for those of you who ask "why don't you just become a citizen" -- it's not that easy.)

    The motivation, of course, is that Florida gets more money having me as a non-resident because that means I don't receive a homestead exemption; the federal government gets more money classifying me as a resident since residents are taxable in more situations than non-residents.

    In short -- they're going to classify you whichever way makes them more money. For DOT, that means you're commercial if there is ANY excuse for it, no matter how tenuous. For IRS, it's the opposite.

    Whichever one makes the government money is the one they'll go with.

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    Farm registered semi

    My brother is a logger and they need someone to haul some loads for them, their semis are registered as farm trucks and from the site to the yard is less than 150 miles. Is it required for me to have a CDL to drive for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeranderson8 View Post
    My brother is a logger and they need someone to haul some loads for them, their semis are registered as farm trucks and from the site to the yard is less than 150 miles. Is it required for me to have a CDL to drive for them?
    No offense but this thread is 3 years old. I'm sure he's made the trip by now. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeranderson8 View Post
    My brother is a logger and they need someone to haul some loads for them, their semis are registered as farm trucks and from the site to the yard is less than 150 miles. Is it required for me to have a CDL to drive for them?
    I think it has to be business related directly to the farm. You can haul logs to the farm or from the farm, but not from some other site to some other site for someone else.

    It's not hard to get the CDL though. Grab the book, study it, take the written tests, and borrow one of their trucks for the driving part.

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    OK so here in Alberta you can have a 2 axle semi and tow your RV trailer with it. You can register it as a "Private Vehicle" class 3 registration. Notice I said private vehicle, not private carrier? This means you can drive it with just a normal license as you would need for your pick up or car, in Alberta that's a class 5. All you need is and air brake endorsment on your license. I do not need to follow any of the CMV regs registerd as a private vehicle. You do not need to stop at scales here because the scales say commercial vehicles over 4500kg must stop. That means if your under 4500KG and a CMV you keep on rolling. As a private vehicle there is no registerd weight attached to your vehcile. Now if a state says "all trucks" must stop, then I would roll through the scales on the left side as if it is a CMV truck. Depends what the sign says.

    Now since Canada follows most if not all of the FMCSA regs, I know hours of service are a bit different, why would it be any different in the US? I do know that some states and even British Columbia has laws regarding RV's over a certain weight having an endorsment and thats a good idea but that dont make it a CMV. But it is my understanding that as long as you are legal and properly licensed in your home state or province, other states will honor you license status. I forget the term they use for that.

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