Driving a privately owned Semi
Discussion in 'Questions To Truckers From The General Public' started by CHHALL3, Dec 9, 2008.
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Similar setup to the person that got ticketed (and had it thrown out). Yours doesn't look quite as bad, though.
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The Antique Truck Historical Society (ATHS) has a nice breakdown of who does and doesn't need a CDL based on Fed. rules. Also who buys those nice fuel tax stickers. Search google, since linking must be approved by mods.
If I remember correctly, some antique trucks are exempt from each; based on braking systems and overall weight rating. None of these exempt can be used for hire though, and most of the guys that run them are old truckers who have CDL's anyway.
If I was the OP I would just call the local DOT office (and possibly each state in the trip) I wouldn't get caught trying to explain "a forum told me it was ok" to a dot or state cop. -
Ever see all the people pulling there race cars and other things done the road. with a big truck. they are private use and are not under dot rules about license.So you can can take your big truck and make it a private motor coach or toter and do not have to cross scales or stop at dot checks. This is the wording from a very large camper sales in Indiana
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I believe Diesel Bear stated having sponsors on it, kinda makes it commercial. CDL is based on weight and bumper, and possibly bumper to ground as well.
I thought about bobtailing around as far as retiring......at least then you'd have time to stop and play unlike when driving otr. With the new apu's ....think it's now more realistic. -
as far as log books being required its pretty black and white as the rule is stated here. http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/fmcsa-guide-to-hos.pdf
Look at Page 2
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Private use my friend does NOT mean that you do not fall under DOT rules. A CDL would be required, you would have to roll through scales, and you most certainly are open for DOT checks. The only difference is that you do NOT have to keep a log book.No medical card is required either. All other things apply. I know this because I have a private carrier that I drive and have been through this before. A camper is a different story than a semi because it is registered as a RV. If you put a crapper, microwave, and refrig in the semi then it to could be registered as a RV.
Best thing you could do though is still roll through the scales and get the CDL license. If you plan on driving the thing then it should not be an issue to get the license.
I can promise you that if you register a semi as an RV and blow by the scales, they will come after you and they will find something to either fine you or shut you down! So why not just take the extra 5 minutes and roll through the scales? You gotta look at as when you have contact with the DOT, highway patrol, or locals, not alot of positive things can happen but a whole lot of bad things can happen. Take the approach that you will avoid that contact by every means possible. -
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The vehicle itself is not making any $ during the transportation of the race car, therefor it is NOT a commercial activity. Check out the NASCAR haulers, they will say "Private Carrrier" or "Not for Hire".
This is like saying that my car is a commerial carrier since I use it to drive to work where I make $.
And I hate to tell ya but the VAST MAJORITY of people will pull a race car as a hobby. And they will tell you that they only look to cover their costs. -
I do not care whether you disagree or not.
The state of Illinois has determined this and enforces it accordingly. I have also heard of others that determined it as well.
I have also seen the NASCAR haulers enter the scales as well.
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