Naw...

You simply like to take time before you make up your mind, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I guess JBH is running out of drivers to call so they figure they try this route. LOL just kidding. I am pretty sure you will like Roehl. Let me know your truck number and I will pass it onto my husband....PS his name is John

Ok, thx for the imput......hmmmmmmmmmmmmm J.B Hunt I will tear that application up

Thx for the input.

NO...I think it should be the other way around....Make up your mind before you take the time....Now that has a ring to it!

I also hate to see ME_at_JB banned. He was very amusing. Reading his posts reminded me of the sitution commedies on TV that are so silly that canned laughter is needed to let the viewer know when to laugh. I want to address a few issues raised by ME_at_JB. As a former JB recruiter, I know how the system works.

The largest single source of names in the JB database used by the telemarketers came from public records. Until identity theft became so widespread, it was relatively easy to get a list from the different states of every one who had a CDL. JB recruiting knows that to hire 3 drivers, an outsider recruiter has to schedule 15 drivers for orientation. A couple of applicants will be rejected for driving record, accidents or criminal record. Three will be hired. The rest, about 10, will change their mind and tell JB, or simply not show up for orientation. Since the ten did an application, JB has their phone number. They are now in the JB data base and will soon begin receiving phone calls. If some one is rejected for having one too many tickets, the computer knows when the oldest ticket falls off and will start autodialing on that date.

I read in one post that JB telephone recruiters can't call a particular driver because the computer autodials and the recruiter does not know who he will be speaking with until the name pops up on his screne while the computer is dialing. This is the normal way. However, the recruiter can log out of his computer and manually dial a number.

Me says that most of the names JB gets come from referrals from JB drivers. That is not true. Most of the names are already in the data base. The rest come mostly from advertising and from the outside recruiters. For a driver to refer a name to a JB recruiter would be incredibly stupid. A JB driver makes $500 for any driver he gets hired. If a recruiter calls the referral and hires him, the driver makes nothing. JB is not going to pay both the driver and the recruiter for the same driver. To avoid this, all JB drivers are given an 800 number to call when they convince another driver to switch to JB. The JB driver either puts the other driver on the phone with some one who will take his app and schedule orientation, or he will give that person the drivers name and phone numberto call back. The person taking the app is not a commission paid recruiter. JB does not pay a commission for just taking an app from some who already wants to come to JB and just needs to apply.

The telephone recruiters are not just dishonest with drivers. They are like a bunch of sharks feeding on other recruiters. When a driver is a no show for orientation, an outside recruiter is protected on that driver for 48 hours. He has 48 hours to reschedule the driver for orientation. If he does not, the driver is fair game for any recruiter. Often when an outside recruiter calls the driver to reschedule him, the driver has already been rescheduled by one of the telephone recruiters, 5 minutes after the driver failed to show up. The telephone recruiter has been tipped off by one of the schedulers. He just stole $500 from his fellow employee.

Enough said for today.

I am no authority on JB Hunt or its websites, but I am on recruiting websites that recruit drivers for various trucking companies and have been in this field for many years. Several years ago I ran into a website that was made to appear as a JB Hunt official site but was actually recruiting for many different companies. I don't know whether this is the same company that you are reffering to, however from a business perspective the larger websites that recruit drivers and list company ads for those companies are in all likelihood recruiting for those companies. The reason why this is true is that for any company to succeed it must create revenue and it is hard for me to believe that JB Hunt is funding a website other than its own. Most recruiting websites offer an application service to its subscribers, a driver fills out an application and that application is forwarded on to those companies which the driver meets its hiring criteria, or the driver specifically ask that his application be sent to a certain company or companies. JB Hunt may have been the only trucking company on the site that matched your hiring profile. I am not familiar with the site you named. I do know that when applications are filtered, the numbers of companies hiring criteria meeting driver's needs and experience, the numbers fall drastically. Each recruiting website has different operating procedures however their basic operations are to my knowledge failry standard across the board. I prefer for drivers to go directly to the company that is hiring and speak with them directly. As for website owners being the only ones to call back from recruiting websites, well that is just false. Drivers call and talk to me all the time, and this is fine; at my current website or any of the others I have been affiliated with during the past six years I know of no one calling and actually recruiting a driver. If a driver has a question regarding a company, I send them directly to here or to the trucking company. For liability reasons I will not nor can imagine any other large recruiting website calling a driver to recruit them to a specific company. But I can not say this can't happen, just that I know of no company that does this.
JB Hunt recruiters do have their own websites, but it is my understanding that they may not reference JB Hunt in any way on these personal sites. This may have changed but that is my understanding. If JB Hunt is the only company that called you, it may be that you met their criteria and no other company's criteria. It is hard to tell, I will say this, I once had a recruiting manager tell me that her recruiters were not working the leads they received over the internet since in their opinion, a 100 other companies would be calling the same driver. But I do wonder about the companies that list more than a 1000 companies your application will be sent to. I can't imagine a driver wanting to waste his time answering that many calls. But different strokes for different folks I guess. But, I find it hard to believe that a website purporting to recruit for 50 different companies is in fact only recruiting for JB Hunt. It could be true, but I find it hard to believe.

This was not the website in question. I wish I could name the site, but I cannot at this time. Let's suffice it to say that it was one of those that does recruit for several different companies, and it allows an applicant to choose which companies that his/her application will be sent to, or at least that is the way it is supposed to be.

The cost of sponsoring or operating a website to JB Hunt is merely another tax write-off. If it produces contacts and a stream of applicants, like all the other avenues that the company uses to draw interest, it makes no difference whether or not it produces revenue. They are getting the results they are seeking. Names and phone numbers.

I sincerely believe, they may have arrangements with some site operator(s) to forward any and all applications to them for a set fee of a buck, two bucks...who knows? I'll explain my theory below.

In my case, when I experimented with the site in question this past December, I specifically excluded JB Hunt from the list of Motor Carriers that I wanted my application forwarded to. The next day, a person who purported themself as a JB Hunt recruiter was on my phone. Not one company, including the three I DID choose, called me in response to my submission on that site.

I firmly believe that JB Hunt was the only company that my information was forwarded to. I did call the three other companies that I requested the information to be sent to, and they all said they did not receive my information. So what other conclusion am I to arrive at, other than for some reason, JB Hunt received my information not only without my permission, but that they probably paid someone for that information?

In what little time I have had to look into the recruiting website "industry", I have discovered something that alarms me deeply. There are so many sites out there that do not include contact information and a physical address listed somewhere on the site, and considering that there is a great deal of potential in someone experiencing identity theft and other malfeasance as a result of submitting personal information to a site of this nature, and not knowing how that information will be used and for what purpose, I am willing to go on record that these sites are a high risk venture and should be avoided completely, UNLESS the site clearly lists a name, a verifiable address, and verifiable phone number that corresponds to that address.

If this is true, then why would you run such a site, and what do you stand to gain if one bypasses your site and goes directly to the company? How do you benefit from someone doing this? Your revenue has to come from somewhere, doesn't it? Advertising revenue isn't a mainstay, is it?

I assure you it happens. My local paper is filled every Sunday with ads for sites and toll free numbers with an extension number placed in the ad. The toll free number will be the same in several of the ads, but the extension number will differ by the name of the company. Granted, this is not the same type of operation that you are involved with, but there are "headhunters" out there, that contract to carriers on a per-head basis.

Not too many years ago, I was personally victimized by one of these headhunters, who was contracted to Allen Freight Services, in Jacksonville, Florida. Allen Freight is a division of P.A.M. Transport. I was fed a line of #### from start to finish. I agreed to sign on, and drove to Jacksonville to take a position with them. Upon arriving to orientation, I discovered that three key conditions that I specifically asked about were totally misrepresented. I asked the person conducting orientation about the recruiter, and he made it a point to inform me that this person was not affiliated with the comany in any manner, and that I was not the first person to have issue with the lies told. I apologized, but declined to continue with signing on with the company.

I assure you, I would not have any trouble meeting ANY company's hiring criteria.

Well think about it. AOL had an employee that sold information on their subscribers for $5.00 a pop. Considering how desperate that JB Hunt is for fresh meat, it's not too hard to imagine that there might be some funny business going on to get contact information on viable candidates. I'm not suggesting that if it is being done, that it is illegal, but it sure comes close to being unethical.

Driver after driver has offered in this forum and across the web, that they have been contacted repeatedly by that company, or people that allegedly are, and hounded to give them a try. JB Hunt has a horrible reputation for trying tactics that even worse carriers have not tried. They will do anything to fill those orienation classes.

I appreciate that you came in here and addressed this from another perspective, but I am pretty much sold on the fact that when it comes to JB Hunt and their thirst for warm bodies, they will try just about anything, and are.

I guess those CRST drivers who took J.B. up on their breakroom seductions soon found it was no better at "big yellow and brown". If they would have found their dream companies, the phone calls would have quit, at least one would think they would have.

I don't understand why consenting adults would go to a company that uses this tactic. Obviously it's been going on for a while, and if J.B. WERE any good, the phone calls would have stopped months, maybe YEARS, ago, meaning the drivers lured to J.B. via phone calls would still be with them, and J.B. wouldn't even need recruiters.

Maybe it's just me, though.

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--Paved Dudley--

Yeah I drive a Swift truck
And that means one thing
It means she's slow
It's a typical company truck
It's just all show and no go

I'm gettin' passed by Yella
And even Overnite
I'm gettin' passed by ever' body in sight
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight

No, my hometown's nowhere in sight
And if you think I'm pissed off
You're right
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight


Love pissing off those trucking company insiders.

Reply to MACK E-6:

Yes, it is getting hot. I believe that the next round may find JB Hunt feeling like a bug under a magnifying glass in the bright sun...e-mail discovery of evidence may burn their hides.

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Not NO, HELL NO to JB Hunt

This is as old as the hills,but.Do you know what you get when 2 JB drivers leave a truck stop?Answer.6 parking spaces.