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BUBBABONE · **^ Top** #**281** 10.23.2006

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Originally Posted by mascmo

who are you currently waiting on...i need some suggestions and need to take my two week notice out of my current job.

Slow down is my advice...you seem to be wanting to get out of your current job and jump into trucking.

pro1driver · **^ Top** #**282** 10.23.2006

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Originally Posted by ProfessorSwift

Today I was officially terminated. Reason given. Unstableness.

Now how can I be stable when my first mentor was a nut. My second I have no idea why he put me off his truck and this third one put me off because I refused to break the law.

I called pheonix and tomorrow will have a report waiting for them. I told them I was illegally terminated and now they want a full statement from me.

I will give them a day by day conclusion of my events with all of the proof I have in my possession. I will also be sending copies of these documents to my state government. To the AG the DOT the ACLU everyone. Absolutely every agency in this state along with several news organisations will recieve copies of this report. I will have the report made visable to you guys on a web page to be created by fridasy so you can see what kind of mess I got myself into by chooseing swift.

Thanks for trying to help fellas but now I have to find another trucking company who wants safe responsible legal drivers.

check with your state unemployment office, you might be able to collect benefits for being terminated. you might also be able to sue them for unlawful termination as well, but that might be difficult to win, so let the state agency handle that complaint...........

kc0rey · **^ Top** #**283** 10.23.2006

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Originally Posted by mascmo

Ok heres the thing...I would like to keep reading how bad Swift is and things of that nature. But for me they pretty much are my only option. Im gonna be 21 have had my CDL for 2 years drove a tractor trailer for about a year and have driven class B truck for the past 6 months...no one else will really hire unless im say 22 or 23. It seems like everyone that has a problem with them puts themself out in the open with a shoot me sign on their back. Trust me i am not being ignorant to the fact that they arent the most liked company out there nor do i think that people that have worked for them are lying. I totally believe your stories, but heres the thing i need to get some driving experience OTR so i can get hired back here locally. I understand the risk at hand...and a risk is what i will have to take.

Having said all that, like some have told me and this is exactly what i planned on doing. I planned on staying well under the radar...doing my job taking the "bad" loads but most of all trying my best to not stand out. Now I know you all might jump on me for this but I have brought this up in the past and the general concensus was to just go to Swift dont stand out and get some experience.

I am totally open to suggestions and i will read everything everyone has to say...i guess i know what im stepping into and im just gonna be prepared as i possibly can.

You've got to do what you believe is best...but know this.......If you attempt this and fail Swift will blackball you and you may never get another driving job. That is a pretty high risk if you ask me......

stranger · **^ Top** #**284** 10.23.2006

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Originally Posted by mascmo

Ok heres the thing...I would like to keep reading how bad Swift is and things of that nature. But for me they pretty much are my only option. Im gonna be 21 have had my CDL for 2 years drove a tractor trailer for about a year and have driven class B truck for the past 6 months...no one else will really hire unless im say 22 or 23. It seems like everyone that has a problem with them puts themself out in the open with a shoot me sign on their back. Trust me i am not being ignorant to the fact that they arent the most liked company out there nor do i think that people that have worked for them are lying. I totally believe your stories, but heres the thing i need to get some driving experience OTR so i can get hired back here locally. I understand the risk at hand...and a risk is what i will have to take.

Having said all that, like some have told me and this is exactly what i planned on doing. I planned on staying well under the radar...doing my job taking the "bad" loads but most of all trying my best to not stand out. Now I know you all might jump on me for this but I have brought this up in the past and the general concensus was to just go to Swift dont stand out and get some experience.

I am totally open to suggestions and i will read everything everyone has to say...i guess i know what im stepping into and im just gonna be prepared as i possibly can.

What will you do if you get with a bad trainer, bad dispatcher, or do anything they seem undesireable, and get fired. Your DAC will be blasted, and then you won't get a good job with anyone for a loooong time.

A year seems like along wait when you want to drive.
I know how you feel. Years ago I tried every way under the sun to get a driving job. It took a year, and someone on the inside I knew.

Don't get discouraged, and don't make a mistake with a company that has a record of black-balling trainees.

If you have a good local job then you are ahead of the game. Believe me, the road is not what it is cracked up to be. But I have been where you are at. You will have to kiss a few frogs before you get the prize.

stranger · **^ Top** #**285** 10.23.2006

ProfessorSwift,

I hope you have positive proof of your ordeal. I hope you can nail the trainers and the company to the wall, just don't get your hopes up.

The odds of them rehiring you are small. The odds of them slamming your DAC are high.

The odds of getting this mess straightened out to your satisfaction are slim to none, and slim just left town.

I wish you all the best. I hate what these companies have done to trucking.

These companies get a lot of [jerks] and loosers to train. They soon begin to think all trainees are like that, and must be treated like dogs. Heck, they think all drivers should be treated like dogs, no matter the years of experience.

I have been that one man who tried to change things for the better at a company I worked for. I ended up quitting over the proposal I made. After I was gone a few months the manager presented the pay proposal to upper management as his idea, and it was approved almost word for word.

I did not get the benefits of the change, but the pay scale would not have been changed had I stayed, because it was a drivers idea, and as we all know, drivers are suposed to drive and keep their mouth shut.

So fight the fight. It may not help you, but it may help others who come after you.

Powerslide · **^ Top** #**286** 10.24.2006

Out of curiosity, are there not any privacy laws to protect drivers from being "blackballed" by a former employer? Up here the only record an future employer can really use is a MTO driver / CVOR abstract, which is an official record of performance maintained by the government, as opposed to a former supervisors opinion. If a former employer were to disclose anything in the drivers personal file to an outside source, he could and would be dealt with by our ministry of labour.

kc0rey · **^ Top** #**287** 10.24.2006

There is a law that states you can't blackball a person. The thing is you have to prove you were blackbaled and here is the problem with that:

The employer makes something up.

Same for employers who wont pay you. I once was forced to sue a company who kept me out for 3 months (I was cool with that part as I was single and had plans for that big check) and would only advance me $100 a week. WHen I got back to the yard, no paycheck.
By the time i got out of jail for assaulting the owner, assaulted him again and got back out of jail, filed suit he had all kinds of proof that I failed to turn in fuel reciepts, blew tires off the truck and didn't turn in reciepts etc. He covered all but the $2000 he had to pay me.......Then I went to jail a 3rd time for assaulting him.............he got beat up allot...............
His legal problems have continued to roll on...........the company is now in his wifes name and it is growing expotentially over the years. He has been investigated by the Feds because he recruits drivers from Auatralia and New Zealand, helps them to get Work Visa's and then strands them when they want to get paid.

Here is Landlines take on the story:

[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.

I worked and trained new drivers for this piece of dirt for over a year. The shame is mine......the busted head was his.

MACK E-6 · **^ Top** #**288** 10.24.2006

Mascmo, Swift is NOT your only option. Talk to construction and aggregate companies. There may even be a few outfits near you that haul building materials locally, not the best paying work but anything beats Swift.

chickenlittle · **^ Top** #**289** 10.24.2006

First off, keep your chin up. You are going to be so much better off out of that situation. Went threw something like that a Swift. I put myself off the truck, they paid for a ticket for me to come back. The trainer wasn't worth 2 dead flies and doesn't train anymore. I'm not sure I would spend as much time fighting with them as trying to find a place you can get what you need. Just my opinion.

eighteenwheeler · **^ Top** #**290** 10.26.2006

How Swift and JB Continue to be able to find drivers with the reps they have is beyond me....

What keeps these policies in place?? It must be VERY hard to manage a shipping fleet when you are only keeping drivers on for a period of only a few weeks or months at a time.......

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