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Re: Another True Swift Incident

The point here was,this guy didnt see anything wrong with the line dragging.Even tho it would eventually wear thru.His comment they are messing with me,it was only dragging a little.So lets see if its only dragging a little it might be 100 miles before it wears thru.If its dragging a lot maybe 25 miles.I have had this happen and usually another driver will notify me via the CB,at which time I pull over to the side of the road and fix it.I have also told other drivers of this situation.
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Re: Another True Swift Incident

whats wrong with leaking air from an airline i mean my truck makes its own so whats it matter if your losing 20-30 psi per minute no danger in that he should have been able to keep going and if his brakes would have locked up it would not hurt swifts outstanding safety rating one bit
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Re: Another True Swift Incident

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whats wrong with leaking air from an airline i mean my truck makes its own so whats it matter if your losing 20-30 psi per minute no danger in that he should have been able to keep going and if his brakes would have locked up it would not hurt swifts outstanding safety rating one bit
I would say no problem if there were no one else around when that were to happen. But I would hate to be the family next to this guy on the interstate when the trailer starts coming around.
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Re: Swift Transportation Company, Inc. - Phoenix, Az.

Dunno if it really applies here but,
Seem to me Swift drivers have a "little extra time on their hands".


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Re: Swift Transportation Company, Inc. - Phoenix, Az.

Please. A Swift truck going that fast?
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Re: Swift Transportation Company, Inc. - Phoenix, Az.

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Dunno if it really applies here but,
Seem to me Swift drivers have a "little extra time on their hands".


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This should be posted in the joke section. I thought it was funny....they should have covered up their truck #
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Re: Swift Transportation Company, Inc. - Phoenix, Az.

my bad.... didn't scroll far enuff down...

I gues there are 8 parts to that thing. Hence, my reasoning for to much time. Personally, I won't waste an hour of my time watching a swift truck
"try" an get up to 70.
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whats wrong with leaking air from an airline i mean my truck makes its own so whats it matter if your losing 20-30 psi per minute no danger in that he should have been able to keep going and if his brakes would have locked up it would not hurt swifts outstanding safety rating one bit
Is that a SERIOUS question? What's wrong with air leaking at that rate? Plenty.

First of all, there was a standard at one time, specified for drivers that stated that any loss of more than 3 PSI a minute, dictated that the truck is not driveable. This is still the means for determining whether it is put out-of-service by a road level inspector, according the the CVSA OOS criteria.

The FMCSA amended the rules to be rather simple, but it doesn't change anything. Here's what is stated on the subject of air loss:

§383.111 Required knowledge.

(g) Air brake knowledge as follows:

(g)(1) Air brake system nomenclature;

(g)(2) The dangers of contaminated air supply;

(g)(3) Implications of severed or disconnected air lines between the power unit and the trailer(s);

(g)(4) Implications of low air pressure readings;

(g)(5) Procedures to conduct safe and accurate pre-trip inspections.

(g)(6) Procedures for conducting enroute and post-trip inspections of air actuated brake systems, including ability to detect defects which may cause the system to fail

§396.7 Unsafe operations forbidden.

(a) General — A motor vehicle shall not be operated in such a condition as to likely cause an accident or a breakdown of the vehicle.

(b) Exemption — Any motor vehicle discovered to be in an unsafe condition while being operated on the highway may be continued in operation only to the nearest place where repairs can safely be effected. Such operation shall be conducted only if it is less hazardous to the public than to permit the vehicle to remain on the highway.


When air loss reaches the point where you are losing 20-30 psi a minute, combined with what is zapped from the system when you apply the brakes to all wheels in a normal manner, could drain the air reserves to a point VERY quickly, where the air brakes will automatically lock due to a lack of pressure in the system. They are designed to depress the air valves on the dash, at around 60 psi, or thereabouts.

Also, when your reserve air pressure falls to around 80 psi, the springs inside of dual brake chambers will overcome the air supply that keeps them pushed back, and your brake shoes will start to apply pressure on the brake drums. Drive like that for a few miles, and you now have some overheated brakes, which will NOT stop the truck, and a fire hazard if they are driven even farther.

Air loss of this magnitude is considered an imminent hazard, as defined in the CVSA criteria, and a driver could net a hefty fine, if caught driving with air loss that severe.

I've encountered air lines dragging a couple of times, and it really is easy to overlook them in a quick walkaround, but if you've ever had to deal with the problem a few times, you make it a matter of routine, every time you drop and hook, and when you make stops along the way, because of course, there are no warning signs before it happens. Those springs rust, or wear out from constant motion where they are hung. Drive a truck long enough, and this will happen to you.

A quick tip for anyone that has an air loss due to a chafed or dragged hose:

ALWAYS carry black electrical tape. It's a trucker's best friend, and especially in a case like this. Unless a hose is completely severed, or where the chafed area of the hose gets larger than a the diameter of a pencil, that black tape will temporarily patch the hole, and allow you to proceed to a place of repair, without further air loss. Even in cases where it doesn't completely stop the air loss, at least it slows it to a trickle.

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I think Mr Juggs was just being sarcastic there.
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Re: Swift Transportation Company, Inc. - Phoenix, Az.

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Dunno if it really applies here but,
Seem to me Swift drivers have a "little extra time on their hands".


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No problem. I found it hilarious, not so much because an actual Swift truck was in the spoof, but more so because of the acting in it. That kid was HORRIBLE, which made it funnier than it otherwise would have been.

His facial expressions......priceless.

Swift probably is not pleased to know that it's out there.....

By the way, there are 8 parts to that spoof....I'm gonna find 'em all...
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