Originally Posted by pawpaw

Another person showing their intelligence by their responses. Obviously if Swift were making more money off of the schools than hauling freight, they would reduce their risk of liability and just go to running schools. And of course they are going to have a high turnover rate. Part of those numbers are all the wannabees who find out that driving a truck is work. They thought they were joining to see the country and travel while being paid. They leave and don't look back. And there are a number who go there for a year to go someplace else they want to work. I find it personally disgusting to be told by a director of recruiting to go drive for someone else for a year and then come back and talk to us. This was told to me by the director of recruiting at Schaffer. I doubt he would like it if I came to work for them for a year just to go to someone else.

Face it, Swift does the industry a great service by weeding out alot of wannabees who can't hack it on the road. Rather than ripping them apart for doing what many other companies are too afraid to do, you ought to be grateful.

And on the flip side they have thousands of drivers who have been there in excess of two years, som give your bogus arguments a rest. It is an old story that is just as false today as the day it was first started. If you haven't driven for Swift then you really shouldn't be commenting as this is for people to share their experiences with a company.

Originally Posted by Maxgussam

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Your staunch defense of an outfit that you have not even worked 1 day for is amazing.

You would do well to keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed, no matter what company you end up working for. Otherwise, your driving career is liable to be short lived.

I mean no disrespect, but if I were in your shoes, I would lose the chip(s) on my shoulders.

Believe me, we have all seen drivers with this sort of "I'm going to tell them what's what"
attitude, with their companies as well as with customers, cops, DOT, etc..

Usually they don't stay around long.
Dont let it happen to you...

Originally Posted by Baack

You all have great info
But we need to be more civil to each other!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Maxgussam

Since this appears to be a reply to me, I will reply to you...

Of course Swift accepts the turnover, they have been operating this way for many years!

Your sample of (2) drivers is not enough to indicate a pattern. Try asking the next 100+ Swift drivers you see, or ask the next few if they expect to be working at Swift 10 years from now, and report your results.

The likelyhood is that these guys were staying on until they had enough experience to move on.

My "theory" is undamaged.

Your staunch defense of an outfit that you have not even worked 1 day for is amazing.

You would do well to keep your eyes and ears open, and your mouth closed, no matter what company you end up working for. Otherwise, your driving career is liable to be short lived.

I mean no disrespect, but if I were in your shoes, I would lose the chip(s) on my shoulders.

Believe me, we have all seen drivers with this sort of "I'm going to tell them what's what"
attitude, with their companies as well as with customers, cops, DOT, etc..

Usually they don't stay around long.
Dont let it happen to you...

Originally Posted by Maxgussam

If you will actually read reply above you might see that I included their vaunted Apprentice Program in my statement. You cannot deny that these programs are a very important part of their operation, and must be profitable, or they would not continue to operate in this way.
No where did I state that "nobody stays more than 1 year".

I will state however, that the bigwigs at Swift have the EXPECTATION that new people will leave within some period of time. Be it 1 year or less, 3 years, whatever...
They have run the numbers and found a way to make their massive turnover work for them.
To deny this ruins your argument...

Sadly, many prospective (and current) employees either don't know that their quitting is expected, and planned for, or blind themselves to this, due to cheerleading by some folks here and elsewhere.

I have no personal grudge against Swift or any other company.

I had not planned on engaging in a lengthy argument here, so good luck to everyone going to work there. I really mean it...

I'm done with this, you all can have at it...

Originally Posted by 59halfstep

Very well said. I can't believe the stands, positions, and arguments some will post while they are trying to get into school or attending school. Folks it is called experience get some and then report back.

Charlie

Originally Posted by Timtruck

Pawpaw-Trucker 1 year
Snowman&Fred-wannabe

This pretty much says it for me. those 2 are the primary supporters of Swift here. I state the obvious, sight their own chairman's words and they still tell me Im lying. But yet they still have not refuted really anything that I have said. And of coure Im not worried about the little red thing, because as Pawpaw thinks-its because nobody trusts me, but that is not so, it grows green with more people thanking you. I looked at most of his posts and Im not sure what anybody is thanking him for, all he does is state really nothing except to appease his Swifties.

Originally Posted by Snowman&Fred

well the items in my signature line are there to be funny, the one in red is the way i will operate. You said earlier that 'nobody stays longer than a year. I just ran into two who have been there 3 and 4 years. According to your theory, i shouldn't run into any. Havent worked for Swift, no. Have you??