swift... well it's mentoring system.

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  1. bs64507

    bs64507 Light Load Member

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    How can he mess with your log? I have seen this from other company trainers also "He changed my logs," etc. I work for a company that runs elogs. Not sure how someone could change my log without my knowledge. Your log is your log, not his. I don't understand.
     
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  3. Lifeline

    Lifeline Bobtail Member

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    They can do it behind your back log you out and log themselves in oooorrr......they can edit the logs with swift I don't thing they even needed DM approval.
     
  4. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    You can change students logs all the time. His mentor couldn't have changed them any more than anyone else can though. Meaning he might have taken him off duty when he forgot to change it. Students did that all the time, but he couldn't edit drive time. Students can easily think their logs are being terribly messed with but usually it's just that they don't know what's going on. It's easier sometimes as a trainer to just edit the log, to correct an error, than going through the whole process. This is usually because of time constraints.

    Basically, I couldn't "mess" with a student log any more than I could mine. This really isn't the egregious thing most make it out to be.
     
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  5. Lifeline

    Lifeline Bobtail Member

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    Matching it with my paper logs and my phone two elogs he was doing grime and the depth of seem deeper than you speak I seen him manually change it drive time as well. He would just have a lot if explaining to dot if we were stopped.
     
  6. snowlauncher

    snowlauncher Road Train Member

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    You know what? I dont care whether the trainer was or wasnt doing wrong!!!
    What pisses me off is if a new trainee tries to be a "whistleblower" to mgmt. they just blew him off without even investigating. Thats whats wrong here.
     
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  7. Brandson

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    My trainer at USX did what I think OP is talking about with the logs. You just changed almost everything that happened during the day except the 30 minute break and pretrip as Driving time to make the students hours complete faster. Gets student off the truck, or to teaming status faster.
     
  8. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    No way, he could not have edited drive time. Sorry but your story just got a little suspect. I just called a guy I know who worked for Swift and he agreed, no way is it possible.
     
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  9. ethos

    ethos Road Train Member

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    That would be editing off duty or on duty time. Go click on drive time and tell me of the edit button lights up. It wont, because you can't edit drive time.
     
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  10. ChefBrianN

    ChefBrianN Light Load Member

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    I'm sure that I have seen this film before. Oh that's right...I did a search on this site and 43 other similar dramas showed up with the same storyline. Sad but true.

    On a purely other note...I get tired of some of this whining that I hear from students or even experienced drivers that drone on and on about their trainer. Grow up already. I once worked with and admired one of those really fat drivers. He was just a nice person...in fact, I don't ever remember hearing a bad word about him or from him. In fact, if he had ever gone to college and got a degree, he probably would have been an outstanding teacher and coach. No matter what happened with his training of young drivers, he could draw out the best of them...even if they were a whiny ####roach like a few folks that post here.

    He ate too much and he smoked too much. He wheezed and carried on getting into and out of his cab, but he NEVER and I mean NEVER bad mouthed any of his trainees and he had the highest successful rate as a trainer. That's more than I can say for some of you folks that cry and whine about trainers. Yes, there are trainers that probably shouldn't be training...some of them have been forced into that because they bought into the rose colored glasses that some carriers offer by signing them on to a lease agreement and in some cases those drivers are just flat out pressured to train other drivers because they fear losing their truck. That combination only produces poor trainers and poor drivers/students.

    I'm no spring chicken here...I started over driving a truck when I was 50 yrs. old. It was hard work and I had to share a cab with more than one driver that was half my age and while I very rarely agreed with some of their driving skills or people skills...I just soldiered on. I didn't call my recruiter or DM and play crybaby...I got the darn job done because by golly...the thought of me calling up some recruiter and/or DM and pissing and moaning because my trainer was too fat, a loudmouth or just plain not a nice person never occurred to me. Why? Because once you get on the road you will more than likely have to deal with other people in this business that will make your trainer look like Mother Theresa.

    Seriously...driving a truck ain't an easy living. And if you're posting on this forum about not getting a chance to shower for a day or two, or your trainer was overweight or you feel you weren't trained properly...you seriously need to look at yourself because I'm betting you don't have what it takes to make it here.
     
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  11. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    You can't edit drive time, but you can switch any other time over to drive time. If I understand Swift's current training "standards", the trainer's get paid to run the trainees through as quickly as possible, and that means getting those ever-so-vital drive hours in. So "on-duty not driving" time gets switched to "drive" time", "off duty" time gets switched, and so on. The only time you wouldn't want to switch would be the required 30 min. break and the 10 hour break.

    Once that time gets switched to drive, you are indeed screwed as you cannot switch it back. Any time placed on the "drive" entry, whether placed manually or automatically, is un-editable. I know this from personal experience from editing my own logs in a big hurry and costing myself 5 hours of potential drive time when I meant to edit in off duty time. Moral? Patience is ALWAYS your friend....
     
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