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AfterShock · **^ Top** #91 04.28.2008

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Originally Posted by jl090507

AND/or all of the above stated and has a blemish in his recent past, is trying to make himself a better person; gets his CDL after 280hrs of training and can't get into ANY training trucking company because of that aforementioned blemish that no one told him it would screw him! Also would do just about anything for the chance to prove himself!!!

Candidate B

That's what I was thinkin' too.
Meanwhile, after about 3 months, the former office worker with the great work record driving a desk, makes a right-hand turn, and takes out three cars, two light poles, a fire hydrant, and a bus-stop bench -- and the front left fender of the big truck takes out two more cars in the left-turn only lane.

While candidate A re-applies, and is rejected for another desk driver.

jl090507 · **^ Top** #92 04.28.2008

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Originally Posted by AfterShock

That's what I was thinkin' too.
Meanwhile, after about 3 months, the former office worker with the great work record driving a desk, makes a right-hand turn, and takes out three cars, two light poles, a fire hydrant, and a bus-stop bench -- and the front left fender of the big truck takes out two more cars in the left-turn only lane.

While candidate A re-applies, and is rejected for another desk driver.

And the Company gets more money from, how did you say it, the gobmint. When all of it could have been avoided if they just hire candidate A with that blemish who is trying to to prove himself and WANTS to learn the business and make it his career for life... not a Quick-Fix or In Between careers measure.

AfterShock · **^ Top** #93 04.28.2008

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Originally Posted by jl090507

And the Company gets more money from, how did you say it, the gobmint. When all of it could have been avoided if they just hire candidate A with that blemish who is trying to to prove himself and WANTS to learn the business and make it his career for life... not a Quick-Fix or In Between careers measure.

B I N G O !
My brothah.

But it's ALL about the PROFITS.
$5,000 gubmint hand-outs are hard for a truckin' company to turn down.
Doncha know.

jl090507 · **^ Top** #94 04.29.2008

So now my only hope is appeal to the better nature of an O/O and that they would hire a newbe.

Good skills, desire and want to drive, won't complain much about hometime... (but has one small blemish)

What more would someone want from a newbe?

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Originally Posted by AfterShock

B I N G O !
My brothah.

AfterShock · **^ Top** #95 04.29.2008

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Originally Posted by jl090507

So now my only hope is appeal to the better nature of an O/O and that they would hire a newbe.

Good skills, desire and want to drive, won't complain much about hometime... (but has one small blemish)

What more would someone want from a newbe?

If I were you, I'd forget about those large truckin' companies and look for a MUCH smaller outfit.

A Big truck drivin' friend of mine drove Big trucks for several of the larger companies. They ALL made promises they didn't keep.
He finally found a SMALL company based out of Iowa -- he lives in San Antonio, Texas -- and they get him home on a dependably regular basis -- and through the home-20 ALL the time, so he can at least say "HI" to his family and spend the night after dinner.

And the Big truck is O/O spec'd.
ALL the bells and whistles and he takes it home with him.
The ONLY problem is --- it's a new(er) Peterbilt with a long nose.
I mean, ...... what's NOT to like?

jl090507 · **^ Top** #96 04.29.2008

You are probably forgetting one little, small, well actually big, gigantic, ENORMOUS thing... your "Big truck drivin' friend" was able to get experience by drivin' with those large companies to get into that small company. That is my point to all of this. One mistake on your record and you are f*****. Forget it. Bye-Bye. We don't want to talk to you. We don't care if you would work your *** off!

Small Companies can't/won't take you because of no experience and the big companies won't take you because of a mistake you made and are trying to make yourself better by wanting to work your ### off for them.

I would love to ask these big wigs why? Why would you not take soomeone who would work their *** off for you?

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Originally Posted by AfterShock

If I were you, I'd forget about those large truckin' companies and look for a MUCH smaller outfit.

A Big truck drivin' friend of mine drove Big trucks for several of the larger companies. They ALL made promises they didn't keep.
He finally found a SMALL company based out of Iowa -- he lives in San Antonio, Texas -- and they get him home on a dependably regular basis -- and through the home-20 ALL the time, so he can at least say "HI" to his family and spend the night after dinner.

And the Big truck is O/O spec'd.
ALL the bells and whistles and he takes it home with him.
The ONLY problem is --- it's a new(er) Peterbilt with a long nose.
I mean, ...... what's NOT to like?

AfterShock · **^ Top** #97 04.29.2008

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Originally Posted by jl090507

You are probably forgetting one little, small, well actually big, gigantic, ENORMOUS thing... your "Big truck drivin' friend" was able to get experience by drivin' with those large companies to get into that small company. That is my point to all of this. One mistake on your record and you are f*****. Forget it. Bye-Bye. We don't want to talk to you. We don't care if you would work your *** off!

I'm gonna be blunt here, JL --- with that attitude, you're doomed.
You gotta SELL yourself, man!
Are you worth hiring?
HaiL yes you are!
Make that fact KNOWN.

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Small Companies can't/won't take you because of no experience and the big companies won't take you because of a mistake you made and are trying to make yourself better by wanting to work your ### off for them.

NOT necessarily so.
Well, maybe for the generic, cookie-cutter, large companies.

Twue story -------------------
I found the dream Big truck truckin' gig with a smaller company. They required at LEAST five-years experience drivin a Big truck. MOST of the company drivers had ten-years experience or more, and the rest were very well seasoned O/O's.

Me?
I had barely 4-years experience. But I applied anyway. Convinced them they NEEDED me. Which wasn't all together untrue.
I offered my services at NO charge to them for two weeks -- after which they could decide to pay me for that two weeks, and hire me --- or thank me for my time and send me packin'.
Long story short --- I was hired after an extensive road test. Took all of about two hours.

See where I'm goin' with this?

If you're absorbed with self-pity -- it just ain't gonna happen for you.
Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and do some footwork.
How badly do you REALLY wanna drive a Big truck?

SOMEtimes, it's ATTITUDE over experience. A GOOD attitude can usually be trained.

Is there a Big truck truck stop near you?
Spend a few hours there -- buy a few Big truck truck drivers a cup-0-coffee and pick their brains for possible solutions to your situation.

You CAN do this!

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I would love to ask these big wigs why? Why would you not take soomeone who would work their *** off for you?

Shine-On the "big wigs"!
Half the time, I doubt they even know the answer(s). Mostly, they're dictated to by their insurance carrier. Smaller companies often don't have the same insurance restrictions on them --- and are willing and able to give a guy the break he needs.
Maybe a team operation to start with?
Getcher foot in the door and go from there -- Or, STAY there.
I think you'll find that the smaller truckin' companies don't have the high turn-over rate that the larger truckin' companies have.
And, there IS a good reason for that.
Happy campers don't break camp.

Think about it.

jl090507 · **^ Top** #98 04.29.2008

Your right. I have been thinking bad about myself.

Couple things though, I have been to the small local companies within a good distance of me. I've been given a chance at some companies to at least start their process. When it comes to the end of the process I get the "Thank You, but we hired someone with more experience in ________" (tried trash hauling, Coke, a yard jockey position, and construction/excavating transportation). What hit me? The more experienced on paper got the jobs first and Coke because of the misdemeanor.

Put in apps for several distribution centers. Even the local Union gigs (just to see if it could happen). It ain't like I am not trying. I just go right back out there and try again.

Even right now I am waiting to hear from another excavating company and another construction company (to transport equipment).

BTW, there aren't any local truckstops around where I live. But hey, If I get the chance to do that... Sounds like a good idea!!

In closing

I am a stubborn SOB. I will get in somewhere driving a truck. I just don't like all of the hoops I have to jump through compared to most.

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Originally Posted by AfterShock

Twue story -------------------
I found the dream Big truck truckin' gig with a smaller company. They required at LEAST five-years experience drivin a Big truck. MOST of the company drivers had ten-years experience or more, and the rest were very well seasoned O/O's.

Me?
I had barely 4-years experience. But I applied anyway. Convinced them they NEEDED me. Which wasn't all together untrue.
I offered my services at NO charge to them for two weeks -- after which they could decide to pay me for that two weeks, and hire me --- or thank me for my time and send me packin'.
Long story short --- I was hired after an extensive road test. Took all of about two hours.

.

Is there a Big truck truck stop near you?
Spend a few hours there -- buy a few Big truck truck drivers a cup-0-coffee and pick their brains for possible solutions to your situation.

You CAN do this!

Shine-On the "big wigs"!
Half the time, I doubt they even know the answer(s). Mostly, they're dictated to by their insurance carrier. Smaller companies often don't have the same insurance restrictions on them --- and are willing and able to give a guy the break he needs.
Maybe a team operation to start with?
Getcher foot in the door and go from there -- Or, STAY there.
I think you'll find that the smaller truckin' companies don't have the high turn-over rate that the larger truckin' companies have.
And, there IS a good reason for that.
Happy campers don't break camp.

Think about it.

AfterShock · **^ Top** #99 04.29.2008

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Originally Posted by jl090507

Your right. I have been thinking bad about myself.

Couple things though, I have been to the small local companies within a good distance of me. I've been given a chance at some companies to at least start their process. When it comes to the end of the process I get the "Thank You, but we hired someone with more experience in ________" (tried trash hauling, Coke, a yard jockey position, and construction/excavating transportation). What hit me? The more experienced on paper got the jobs first and Coke because of the misdemeanor.

Well, don't tell anybody but ---- my felony trumps your misdemeanor.
I was on 5-years formal probation when the first truckin' company hired me.
Wanna trade records?

I HAVE that experience.
I ain't just blowin' smoke to sound cool.

Been there --- done that, .... and now I'm writin' the book.

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Put in apps for several distribution centers. Even the local Union gigs (just to see if it could happen). It ain't like I am not trying. I just go right back out there and try again.

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Even right now I am waiting to hear from another excavating company and another construction company (to transport equipment).

BTW, there aren't any local truckstops around where I live. But hey, If I get the chance to do that... Sounds like a good idea!!

In closing

I am a stubborn SOB. I will get in somewhere driving a truck. I just don't like all of the hoops I have to jump through compared to most.

"Stubborn" can be a good thang.
If life deals you lemons --- make lemonade.

Like Mick Jaggers sang:

You can't always get whatcha want
But if you try sometime
You just might find
You get whatcha need.

10-4?

Yellowrose_86 · **^ Top** #**100** 04.30.2008

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Originally Posted by WiseOne

Oh yea, we have MANY trucking companies that read us DAILY. They certainly would rather we go away and they can continue to flat out screw their drivers without a medium for the drivers to say anything about it...besides the CB.

A) maybe they should start treating their truckers like they're worth a damn

B) We have the right and freedom of speech. What can they do? Fire us? It's not like the job is paying the bills and supporting us anyways. My husband would be better off flipping burgers bringing home 2-300 a week andbeing home every night then out all week and bringing home 38 or 150 dollar paychecks a week. My daughters insurance cost more than that!

I always compare truckdriving and truckers to a sled team. You have to feed and treat the team like they are worth having and are doing a good job. The more you starve and beat the team the closer you get to the team turning on you... Truckers across the nation are straining at the leash, demanding to be let off, so they can turn and snarl and snip and bite at their leaders.

Maybe it needs to come to that...

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