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ok if you got 1,500.00 per week times 4 weeks minus the expences at 1,000.00 per week he would only get about 2,000.00 after expences for the whole month of driving.
I can make more than that at company driving for 3 weeks
You make $1,500.00 a week in your pocket x 4 weeks would be $6,000.00 a month.

No you don't make $2,000.00 month.

But I'm talk'n about taking 1 week off which would bring you down $1,500 for that week because if your not driving your not making any money. Leaving you $4,500.00. But your lease payment, ins, etc., doesn't stop. I'm guessing this is about $1,000.00, so you have to pay this out of your $4,500.00, in your pocket money. This would leave you with the $3,500.00 for the month.

A person would make $3,500.00 a month. I added more info to my post to try a make it easier to understand. See if it helps clear up what I was writing.

Keep in mind I'm not saying these guys make this amount of money. I using what they are telling me they make. Wither it can be believed, you have to try and figure that out. I don't know!

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You make $1,500.00 a week in your pocket x 4 weeks would be $6,000.00 a month.

No you don't make $2,000.00 month.

But I'm talk'n about taking 1 week off which would bring you down $1,500 for that week because if your not driving your not making any money. Leaving you $4,500.00. But your lease payment, ins, etc., doesn't stop. I'm guessing this is about $1,000.00, so you have to pay this out of your $4,500.00, in your pocket money. This would leave you with the $3,500.00 for the month.

A person would make $3,500.00 a month. I added more info to my post to try a make it easier to understand. See if it helps clear up what I was writing.

Keep in mind I'm not saying these guys make this amount of money. I using what they are telling me they make. Wither it can be believed, you have to try and figure that out. I don't know!
The lease payment, insurance, Fuel bill, ect is weekly not monthly.
1500.00 X 3 weeks = $ 4500.00
lease payment etc 1000.00 X 4 weeks= $ 4000.00
profit for all of the work before fuel $ 500.00
after fuel you may owe the company money
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The lease payment, insurance, Fuel bill, ect is weekly not monthly.

Yes the lease payment is weekly.

All I'm talk'n about here is money in your pocket. I am not talk'n about the gross.

If you work 4 wks x $1,500.00 a wk in your pocket, that comes to $6,000.00 in your pocket. That's it. In your pocket. This is after everything is PAID, payment, fuel, ins, etc.

Again I repeat if you stay home 1 wk you will still have to pay the costs, which are said to be $1,000.00 a week.

So, if you don't work one week you will not get the $1,500.00 profit. Not only that but you still will have to pay that $1,000.00 costs for that 1 wk.

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Right!

Of course when you don't drive for that one week you take off there won't be a fuel bill, except for the dead heading.
So how are you comming up with the 3500.00? because most company lease payments are atleast 500-800 per week plus you will be paying fuel taxes, road taxes, insurance every week too then the fuel bill.

Have you ever seen a fuel bill for an adverage fill up?
It can cost anywere from 200 -1000.00 +
300 gal X 4 bucks a gallon = $ 1200.00 you will stop for fuel most of the time daily depending on how long the trip is.
The adverage truck gets 5.6 miles per gallon some get 7 -8 miles per gallon.
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So how are you comming up with the 3500.00? because most company lease payments are atleast 500-800 per week plus you will be paying fuel taxes, road taxes, insurance every week too then the fuel bill.

Have you ever seen a fuel bill for an adverage fill up?
It can cost anywere from 200 -1000.00 +
300 gal X 4 bucks a gallon = $ 1200.00 you will stop for fuel most of the time daily depending on how long the trip is.
The adverage truck gets 5.6 miles per gallon some get 7 -8 miles per gallon.
Try and forget all that for now, for this discussion.

Ok, So the gross is $10,000.00, a month plus your fuel. Their saying you make $6,000.00 a month in your pocket, which comes to $1,500.00 a wk.

If you don't go to work 1wk subtract $1,500.00 from $6,000.00. You have $4,500.00. Then if you don't work YOU STILL have to pay your $1,000.00 lease costs. SO, now subtract $1,000.00 from $4,500.00 and you get $3,500.00.

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So how are you comming up with the 3500.00? because most company lease payments are atleast 500-800 per week plus you will be paying fuel taxes, road taxes, insurance every week too then the fuel bill.

Have you ever seen a fuel bill for an adverage fill up?
It can cost anywere from 200 -1000.00 +
300 gal X 4 bucks a gallon = $ 1200.00 you will stop for fuel most of the time daily depending on how long the trip is.
The adverage truck gets 5.6 miles per gallon some get 7 -8 miles per gallon.
My fixed payments are $110 a day. That's everything, but fuel. You are forgetting about FSC. The run I am on paid me $577.10 FSC and my fuel cost me $513.63. So I made $63.47 off the FSC. The truck (my%) was paid $2272.30 for my cut. That was a 2 day run. The thing to do is not just take any run. You have to know if it is worth your while to roll or wait it out.
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Try and forget all that for now, for this discussion.

Ok, So the gross is $10,000.00, a month plus your fuel. Their saying you make $6,000.00 a month in your pocket, which comes to $1,500.00 a wk.

If you don't go to work 1wk subtract $1,500.00 from $6,000.00. You have $4,500.00. Then if you don't work YOU STILL have to pay your $1,000.00 lease costs. SO, now subtract $1,000.00 from $4,500.00 and you get $3,500.00.
See that is why I had the problem I thought that you were saying the person only made 1500 a week before all of the bills.
There was never a $10,000.00 in any of your posts before .
P.S My trainer at my first company almost went bankrupt leasing on with prime.
He ran his butt off I have seen how he likes to get the miles the problem was his driver manager would not give him good miles that is why he was broke.
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See that is why I had the problem I thought that you were saying the person only made 1500 a week before all of the bills.
There was never a $10,000.00 in any of your posts before .
P.S My trainer at my first company almost went bankrupt leasing on with prime.
So you got it now, right?

It's good to hear all the reports one can. Thanks for mentioning your trainer.

Go back to my original comment on this. I'm trying to understand HOW people can say that you have to stay out 4 to 6 wks to make any money. And as I have read it they really want you to be out longer than 6 wks.

If you can make the money that Prime people say you can, $1,500.00 a wk. and more, why would you have to stay out 6 wks. Do they give you all crappy loads for the first few weeks and as time goes on you get better and better loads, until you some how average $1,500.00 a week, or average of $6,000.00 a month. Is this some kind of carrot on a stick game. It's hard to make sense out of.

If you go to SNI you make .39 to start, x 3000 miles a wk. = $1170.00. I'm trying to understand why someone would go to Prime and maybe make $6,000.00 a mo. on a promise or suggestion; if you will stay on the road for them 4-6 wks or more. And in the end, maybe or maybe, not get that average of $1,500.00 a wk. Like it has been said, people have had bad things to say about Prime.

I think I might rather work for SNI for the .39 a mile, $1,170.00 a week, than go with some vague promise from Prime drivers encouraged to talk up the company by money they can get from the drivers they recruit.

SNI has ya trained in 4-6 wks and driving SOLO. While Prime wants you training with a trainer for 60-80k miles. It's been said by some it can take about many months, taken orders from some guy called your trainer, in his truck. You just gotta take orders. You drive when he says. No rules to go by. To me this is really a way to get a team driver cheap. Not only is it cheap but your called a trainee for 60-80k. How is it SNI can have you trained in a month or so, to drive solo, and at Prime their gonna take 3-4 mos to train ya.

What about you notarps4me, what do you think? I'm hoping some one with experience can clear up some of these thoughts.

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seems like all the companies are basically the same..you just have to pay attention and be willing to work. I also think paw paw is right when he said drivers were probably taking to many advances on what they hadn't yet earned
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What about you notarps4me, what do you think? I'm hoping some one with experience can clear up some of these thoughts.

The problem I had was what they were doing that I did not know they were doing. They were taking out for stuff twice. Crediting my account and then taking it back out. Terrible communication. Everything was yanked up. I run a truck smart. Even as a company driver I ran it like I owned it. I found out that when I was with them (4 weeks) That my wife only got 500 bucks in those 4 weeks. I still have some settlements out, and I don't know what the outcome will be, but you can run your books and account for all of your daily fixed costs, factor in fuel and everything else and then find they have gouged you bad everyway they can. If you want to fast track to the poor house they are a great place to go broke.
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