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Old 06.05.2008
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operations announced yesterday that all the trucks would be cut from 65 mph to 62 to save fuel and idle time over their requirements would be watched as well. no mention of anything other departments are doing to help out.
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operations announced yesterday that all the trucks would be cut from 65 mph to 62 to save fuel and idle time over their requirements would be watched as well. no mention of anything other departments are doing to help out.

How about the CEO take a paycut? Does he need to make a multi-million dollar salary, while everyone else suffers?
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WOW, well I guess it's better than 60mph, but I would NOT drive a truck anymore that goes less than 70mph, period. It is the most miserable thing to do to drive a truck at under 65 to be sure. FrDr, you're right...the CEO should take a million dollar pay cut so what if he would only get 20 million then, LOL.
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Turning the truck down does no good for fuel economy because of how people drive those turned down trucks. I have heard so many say, "They turned my truck down but my fuel economy is the same." Here is the reason, drivers will put the throttle to the floor to drive as fast as the truck will go. Hence, you are still pumping the same amount of fuel you would be pumping to go 70 or 75 mph. It's just the truck won't let you go that. The only way fuel economy is realized is to hold the throttle just short of the governed speed. This is what we were taught with our governed school busses. Since most companies have qualcomm the better way to achieve fuel economy (and I know this will tick some off) is to leave the trucks set at higher levels and require the use of cruise control at all times. Extended overspeed readings (which can easily be obtained from the q/c) would then result in a reduction of the mile pay for every mile driven in the overspeed situation. Trucks would have the extra power and speed when needed and better fuel economy would be achieved as drivers would not be running against the governor wasting fuel. Just a thought.
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How about the CEO take a paycut? Does he need to make a multi-million dollar salary, while everyone else suffers?
LOL ya right.. The thing about CEO's nowadays is everybody else gets a pay cut, management gets cut back, charge the customer more, work place becomes a nightmare to work in, CEO get a few million dollar bonus..

The American way as it is today...


The CEO of Crete is an Ex of Schneider National if I am not mistaken.. Well at least one of the hot shots that is making most of the changes is..

To bad, Crete was a good company and being thrown to the side for a few extra bucks..

I believe you will see this happening to almost all companies due to the Mexicans will be taking over our trucking industry.. Take what you can now before it all goes south is what they are thinking...
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Lets see, turning down a truck thats already too slow equals; 80,000 pound rolling road block!!!!!!! When are the states, trucking companies and insurance companies going to realize this??? Its the difference in the speed between the big rigs and general traffic that causes alot of the problems. And most of we truckers already know this! Am I correct ladies and gents???
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I've got no problems going 60 in AZ. I turn off the CB!
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...snipped... , drivers will put the throttle to the floor to drive as fast as the truck will go. Hence, you are still pumping the same amount of fuel you would be pumping to go 70 or 75 mph. It's just the truck won't let you go that. ...snipped... .
Somebody misled you on that one. Modern trucks are fueled thru the OBC. The throttle is a series of rheostats and relays. There are no mechanical connections. The computer monitors air flow and fuel input at all times. And regulates it 100's if not 1000's of times per minute.

The only way you can get more fuel, is for it to be allowed to begin with. Hence, a 65 mph truck will provide no more fuel than is needed to maintain 65 mph.

Modern trucks also have "weight" input for fuel purposes. You get more fuel pumped when heavy, as opposed to empty, when pulling a grade. But you'll never get too much fuel. Unless there is a sensor problem.

Older (pre 2004) trucks would over fuel during cruise settings. But they have updated the software to prevent that too. That's why many lose so much on a pull now days.

Holding the pedal all the way to the floor, still sends a signal to the unit, that it is being run against the governor. But this is for informational purposes only, and not a real issue.

Some companies are going to a higher spring rating for the throttle to assist in "subtle" driver control. While it isn't a mechanical throttle. They still need to provide some resistance to the driver for feedback and switch return. The spring rates increase dramatically in the last inch or so, forcing the driver to find a comfortable spot. Usually at or about what the company wants you to run.
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Lets see, turning down a truck thats already too slow equals; 80,000 pound rolling road block!!!!!!! When are the states, trucking companies and insurance companies going to realize this??? Its the difference in the speed between the big rigs and general traffic that causes alot of the problems. And most of we truckers already know this! Am I correct ladies and gents???
Ive often thought that myself. One thing we were taught in driving school was to go with the flow of traffic or let traffic flow around your truck. The latter would be nice if we had nice big roads with plenty of room. 2 lane highways just dont cut it with todays volume of traffic. I 'go with the flow' of traffic more than I obey the speed limit and that reason is because I am impeading traffic more by going slower. Try going the posted speed limit(55MPH) around the Atlanta loop. Youll have a rolling traffic jam behind you! Anyway, I agree with ya there!
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Lets see, turning down a truck thats already too slow equals; 80,000 pound rolling road block!!!!!!! When are the states, trucking companies and insurance companies going to realize this??? Its the difference in the speed between the big rigs and general traffic that causes alot of the problems. And most of we truckers already know this! Am I correct ladies and gents???
You ARE wrong. It is NOT the difference in speeds that cause problems! It is a driver's (car or big truck) lack of attention that causes MOST problems. If speed differencial were a big problem, we would see the affects in states such as IL and OH. However, these two states do NOT have a higher rate of rear end collisions vs. any other state.

As an o/o I constantly drive 58mph in all states in order to increase my fuel mileage, and it has not hurt my productivity.( i.e. I don't drive as many miles, but the money I save in fuel cost out weights that. I realize company drivers rely on miles, and not fuel mileage, to make their money, so I understand the adverse attitude to being cut back.) Also, driving slower WILL increase the life of tires; is not as hard on the truck mechanically, and I'm not as tired at the end of the day.

As for the top executive at Crete; not an ex-schnieder exec.. I hate it when people use made-up facts!
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