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Old 10.07.2008
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I hardly feel a bit sorry for anyone who rushes into the trucking industry and does zero research. There's a simple solution to companies like Werner, spread the word and don't work for them. They're not called the Big Blue Screw for nothing.

I had to learn a lot of things on my own as a rookie, but I managed. It isn't nearly as much of a "manly man" job as the stories my dad and uncles told me. I started out in a truck with no jake, no johnny bar, and castrated cat engine engine. It was junk but reliable junk. The company took good care of their equipment. I found a company with less than 300 trucks in their fleet to start out with. In my opinion, the smaller the better. I have never worked for a huge corporate mega outfit, and never will.

I think the worst part of the job is the lack of physical activity and a screwed up sleep schedule. Even running legal can make you exhausted, often more exhausted.
While I do feel sorry for the many people that are purposely mislead and lied to by recruiters and schools that accept payola from them... you are right. I have spend hours and hours these past few weeks searching for, calling, writng a number of smaller companies all over the country... unfortunately... insurance costs keep anyone with less than 2 years OTR experience away from most of those jobs.
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It's like steering an iceburg with a 14ft flatbottom and a 5 horse motor. You can't change it. You can join some groups like OOIDA. Then you can have the brainstorm like I had years ago. I can get on the internet as well as talking with people in person and tell them how bad it is. Surely with the internet it won't take long to fix this whole mess. And guess what...they won't listen. There are hundreds of threads here just alike. They won't listen if you don't tell them what they want to hear.

As for regulating driver abuse they tried to help that with the hours of service changes. You should have seen the abuse before the hours of service were changed. It takes a long time to change things. More time than most individuals want to/can afford to devote to it. Good Luck in all your future endeavors.

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I have been scouring the net trying to find some labor law, employment law etc... that would be the basis for a complaint. I have not found it yet. When I do, I'll be posting the precident on this forum.

This kind of treatment can not be legal.

I feel that this issue is bigger than me. I feel that I've got to do something about it.

If not me then who?

I think tommorrow I'll be contacting the Dept of labor. I am also going to try to get in touch with the ACLU (hard for a republican to even type those initials). I may not get the aswers I'd like to hear but I will get answers.

Does anyone else have any suggestions on what other agency or of a Law or precident that might be helpful in trying to end this abuse by Werner and other carriers.

Wish me luck!
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I got into trucking because it is something I've always wanted to do.
I relocated because my wife didn't want to be alone in northern New Hampshire while I was on the road.

It didn't take the dealer 7 days to replace the shoes. I had to take the truck to a Rush repair facility 8 miles away after Werner decided that it was too expensive at the dealer.

I was placed out of service by Or DOT at Woodburn scales and cited $82.00 for being overweight on the drives. I had previously scaled legal after picking up a sealed trailer. Had the scale tickets to prove it. I was legal when I entered Or. at the first scales. The DOT officer demanded I break the seal to examine the load. We took pictures. The plywood and 2x4 barricade that Miller brewing co. put in front of the load failed, allowing 4 pallets of beer to crush against the header. The remaining 16 pallets of beer had slid 1/2 off the plastic pallets. This prevented them from being moved by pallet jack. The DOT stated on oos order that beers must be re-stacked, wrapped, secured and weighed out legal before I could be placed back in service.

Werner requires that you take an advance to pay for expenses ( you can pay out of pocket if you have it) and they are supposed to reimburse you before your pay is calculated. It doesn't happen that way. I am still waiting to get reimbursed for headlights I replaced when they failed, and the hotel bills for 5 days of breakdown from weeks ago.

I have yet to be compensated for layovers caused by breakdowns or time spent waiting to deliver or pick up loads.

If you are dispatched 32 miles dh to get a load but it doesn't load for 48 hours after you get there, you can't make any money. You are able to finally load and you have 320 ld miles before you have to wait another 24 hours to unload. Total of 340 miles at .26/mile for 3 1/2 days = $100 minus 3 showers at $10 and 9 meals. You get the point? Negative cash flow.

My opinion is this: Werner does not care if you are able to support your household let alone if you are able to eat. They don't care if you can (like a human) use a toilet when you need to or shower so you are not embarrassed about your odor. Werner's planners couldn't find their rectums with a flashlight and a detailed map! It is a terrible company and I would not recommend it to even someone I didn't like.

More of my opinion:
You have the right to expect a reasonable living if you are driving otr for any company. You give up your home life to be out on the road and you are not compensated for it. You must eat at fast food establishments or restaurants which will cost you significantly more than if you were eating at home or brown bagging a lunch to work. You are not compensated for it. If you don't run miles and purchase fuel daily you will have to pay for your showers at $10 bucks a pop. You will not be compensated for it.

In other work environments it is required by Labor laws that the company you work for pay for these expenses as well as a comfortable sleep environment as well as any applicable taxes involved. Not so in the trucking industry.
Why?
What makes a trucker any less of a human being than a factory worker or a retail worker?
This is the status quo because truckers let it happen.

I believe that I have value.
I believe that I should be treated as well as any other employee.
I believe that I have the right to expect my employer to not even ask let alone demand that I break cfr's or any other laws of the land.
I believe that my employer should have to provide a comfortable sleep environment. ( one in which the heat, cold, noise around you is condusive to sleep and or rest).

These very basic rights are guaranteed by the Labor laws of this great country we live in for other occupations.

We should demand no less from these employers in this occupation.

I can not believe that anyone would put up with this kind of abuse.

That was my rant for the day.

I certainly hope that no one was offended and would welcome your thoughts on the matter.

Thanks for being here and allowing me to vent!
I feel bad for this guy, but this proves we have truckdrivers and stearing wheel holders. This guy seems to expect to make a fortune starting out. Lets see if its not my truck and it breaks down. The company will pay for atleast the motel. You can sure tell this guy was a rookie.
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Amen to that, the more they praise and preach about God the more it hurts when they forget the vaseline while raping you in the backside

At least this board is good for a good laugh! Honestly, I like it when someone gets in here and tells the truth! Thank you! It just so happens to be Sunday morning when I am reading this!
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Old 07.19.2009
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I feel for you all. WERNER JUST FIRED A VETERAN DRIVER FOR IDLEING TO GET REST TO DRIVE SAFELY THE NEXT DAY. I AGREE W/ YOU ALL. BUT WERNER IS WAY TOO LARGE FOR N-E THING TO BE DONE ABOUT. AND REMEMBER DRIVERS AND DRIVERS TO BE"WE CARE,WERNER CARES". THATS THIER TWISTED SLOGAN AT PRESENT. THE ONLY ONES THEY CARE ABOUT R THE ONES W/ LIPS FIRMLY PRESSED AGAINST CORPORATE ####'S. TO WERNER U R A DIME A DOZEN AND MEAN AS MUCH TO THEM AS THE DOG DOO U JUST ACCIDENTLY STEPPED ON. GOOD LUCK ALL, MIKE"THE LONEWOLF"JACKSON.

Hello all,

I did not type this. I know who did and it is not appreciated.
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Old 07.19.2009
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I feel bad for this guy, but this proves we have truckdrivers and stearing wheel holders. This guy seems to expect to make a fortune starting out. Lets see if its not my truck and it breaks down. The company will pay for atleast the motel. You can sure tell this guy was a rookie.
Locknloaded's post is right on the money.
Truckin4alivin, you are the one that sounds like the "steering wheel holder".
1. Folks, you don't have to work for free. Trucking is a job, not charity work. If you are not being compensated for your time, you are being taken advantage of.
2. Driver's are humans, not machines. Don't freeze in the winter, or roast in the summer. If you have to idle the truck, do it.
3. The bottom line is, if you can't make a decent living, do something else.
Folks, no one can take advantage of you, unless you let them. As long as these companies can take advantage of people, they will do it. The trucking industry is the bottom of the barrel. It has become a total joke. Why anyone would go out there and work for peanuts baffles me.
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I had same exp w/wrnr changed careers went to school got hired by wrnr right out of school, I worked for wrnr for 11 mos. I have worked for 2 other in 8 yrs, drivers complain about many companies, usually the same complaints, but I have to say that wrnr is the worst trucking company, certainly the worst organization of any sort which I have been associated with.
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So many of these "Wheel holders" will just eat it and eat it until they finally leave bitter (and broke). Maybe many are locked in a fleece they cannot leave.

If they would only realize that these companies do not care one bit about them they could break their chains of slavery.
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Im sorry u had such a bad bad deal with werner. I to had the pleasure of
working for werner for a total of 7 weeks. Never ever again!!!!! U need to
make sure your load is adjusted right. Before u leave the shipper...Did u even scale load or was it pre loaded trl??? I hope u find a better company
to work for. Stay safe!!!!
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I drove for Werner....

I am a 4 year veteran of Werner...I started out in Oregon (Portland) with them and drove 48 states...in my first year i was injured in NY/NJ (twisted ankle getting on the 3 point stance in unknowingly soft soil)...i drove "floating gears as my shifting foot was the one injured... I did everything legally required in reporting my injury, and the dispatcher had me run a load of dogfood to the Iowa/Nebraska border, I was enroute to home (Oregon) for hometime and to see a Dr...the dispatcher told me they had no loads going westbound and i had to go back to Maryland for a load going west...i called my wife and told her what was going on...she called my school (IITR) and they called Werner...within 5 minutes I was told to bobtail to the terminal, and report to safety...when they saw the condition of my ankle they rushed me to PT (physical therapy) where it was determined i had a hairline fracture of my ankle...end resut...Werner put me on paid leave, and gave me a rental car with all expenses paid to drive from Omaha to Portland oregon (gas/food etc).
After 8 weeks of healing i got clearance from the Dr to return to partial duty where i was at the Portland terminal basically getting paid to sit around and do nothing...after about a few weeks of this i got restless and asked the Dr clear me to go back fulltime....Werner then gave me a Western regional run with abrand new Pete...I did this for about a year, and kept getting shortchanged on runs..ie i would have a run from Portland OR to pearl Missisippi, and would request to make the entire run...they'd always split me out in Utah, usually doing a shag run to Home depot...after being F'd over on this i requested a LTL run from Cheyenne Wyoming...they said i'd have to live in Cheyenne to get it...so i made them promise in recording that if i moved they would put me on it...I requeted my week's vaca and moved to Cheyenne...got the LTL ran it for a year, then they started downsizing by shutting down the Cheyenne yard and making the run stretch from Omaha to Utah as a trianing run, so i moved yet again to Omaha to stay with the company and transferred to the LTL from Omaha to West Branch Iowa...all in all a good run for the last 2 years up til February of this year (2009) where they sat me at home for 8 days straight with the explanation of "no freight"...i queried the other guys on my line how many days they had missed...noone had missed one single day...and i was the senior on the shift...Come to find out a family favor was called in from the top (Greg Werner) whose cousin or something had gotten married and wife was pregnant and he said put him in another drivers slot for more hours...I got picked to be the one to sit out...

Long story short i made about 660-700/week, home every night and on weekends...when this happened (the sitout) Werner was changing their policies of layover pay and vacation pay. Nominally i would get 1/2 of my pay for sitting out (330-350)...my paycheck came and it was $150...I asked why and they ran me around the bushes about policy etc etc..

Noone had bothered to tell me this while i was sitting at home, calling the dispatcher everyday for load availabilty etc.... Due to this i was late on my mortgage...I managed to get on a couple of days later with a small Mom and Pops reefer unti running beef to all the eastern and southern areas...but i could never catch up on the mortgage...so i ended up losing my house, and moving to Georgia recently...I even asked Werner about getting on through ATL Terminal but they act as if i was never there...saying in a 7 months absence i'd have to start all over again...and run OTR...
So much for loyalty and dedication to a company....

Just got my CDL transferred to Ga...thinking of running with Rhoel unless someone knows a LTL or local unit in Northeatern Ga...
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