Universal am can sucks!!!!!!

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  1. badcompany

    badcompany Heavy Load Member

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    he's the guy who owns univ am cam and mason dixon and several others

    supposed to be the second biggest landowner in michigan
     
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  3. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    in a previous post its said that he doesnt own them, so maybe he did sell. the guy's name is Muldune I think and yes owns several carriers and the bridge among other things
     
  4. badcompany

    badcompany Heavy Load Member

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    if he did its been this month i havent heard anything about it
     
  5. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    This is my take on any company who uses broker loads to reposistion equipment. Please bear in mind, its my opinion so please dont beat me up for it.
    Yes, all companies should have their own customers... But sometimes a customer gives your company a load that goes into an area that maybe you dont normally do business in. With business being as it is, no one wants to turn down freight and possibly jeapordize an account, so you take it. Your sales people dont solicit in that area or maybe have never been there looking for business, so you either deadhead to an area that you have business in or you take broker freight. Maybe you are a smaller carrier who doesnt have sales reps all over the country. In the long run it's a lot more economical to take that broker load than to send someone out to solicit freight where you may never go again. It's up to your company to have relationships with brokers who understand that everyone needs to make a profit. Look at the % of brokered loads compared to the amount of loads actually from the companies customers. If the company utilizes brokers a lot, maybe they need additional sales reps. But, remember in this time of "not so much freight", they may have had all the customers that they needed and now the customers dont have the business to give. Only so many loads out there now. When you make a delivery or a pickup, why dont you ask the customer if they have any business your company could have? Its everyones job to help find business so we can all survive. Just my opinion.
     
  6. Eskimo6804

    Eskimo6804 Heavy Load Member

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    I think we are talking about two different companies. There is a Universal am-can out of Michigan, but the company I am reffering to is out of Anderson,SC. I am not sure which one the original poster was reffering to, but since he said "vans", I assumed it was the one based in SC.
     
  7. DoubleDear

    DoubleDear Light Load Member

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    Ha, we already asked them.... the customer. For our sake.
    And we asked the company if they have any of their own customers. NO! Only one that we know of.
    We even tried to get the company to hook up with some shippers here in the north. The shipper was waiting for the company to contact them and the company didn't. We know a lot of customers up here in the north looking for carriers.
    Why this company won't take on customers? I don't know.
    But I do know, every load comes through a broker.
    And they only run the truck north and south of the east coast. Would that be too hard for a company to look for customers? Nay, but I do believe some trucking companies want to operate on broker loads.

    We had our own business many years ago. we had more customers than trucks. That's why we know a lot of customers up in this neck of the woods. And even offering to help the company get set up with some customers.
    You're right, the only time we used a broker load was to get a driver out of a certain area. Which wasn't that often. We set up customers on a line haul both directions for the driver.
    I've been on both ends of the stick. and know what it's like for a driver.
    A company shouldn't rely on Broker Loads, period. If so, then they shouldn't be in business. Then they're only looking out for them selves.
    And many larger companies, uses agents, who use only broker loads that have no customers of their own.
     
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  8. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    You are correct. But not everyone thinks the way you do. It's cheaper for them to go the broker route so that's what they do. The carrier who does that makes some profit and the drivers suffer. When the driver realizes that the company does business that way, maybe it's time to move on. Some carriers arent concerned about the driver and I wont go into that since thats another "ball of wax".

    Thanks for putting all those things in huge print, didn't even have to wear my glasses to read your post. Ya know as we all age our eyes get weak, as long as the brain doesnt we are ok. Just kidding. LOL :biggrin_25525: Stay safe.
     
  9. DoubleDear

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    And That's why there is a Thread on "BAD COMPANIES"

    DRIVERS DO SUFFER, WHEN THESE "SO CALLED" TRUCKING COMPANIES USES MAINLY BROKER LOADS FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

    IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.

    I'M TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT , FOR THE OWNER OPERATORS, BEFORE LEASING ON WITH ANY COMPANY. ,, FIRST FIND OUT, IF AND HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO THEY HAVE AND USE. OR IS IT MAINLY BROKERING THE LOADS.

    THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL IF YOU'LL BE GETTING THE CRUMBS FROM THE COOKIE JAR.

    I'VE BEEN AT ALL ENDS OF THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY. I KNOW WHAT SOME COMPANIES DO. LOTS OF STORIES TO TELL.
    I WORKED FOR A TRUCKING COMPANY ONE TIME, " a short while", in the BILLING AND PAYROLL. GREATWIDE AND BRISK.
    THESE WERE LTL LOADS. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ON THE COMPUTER, IF THE DRIVER DIDN'T ADD THE EXTRA STOP ONTO THEIR PAPERWORK, THEY DIDN'T GET PAID. THEY WOULDN'T LET ME INFORM THE DRIVERS.

    I SQUAWKED ABOUT IT , BECAUSE IT SHOWED ON THE COMPUTER THEIR STOPS, BUT THEY INSISTED I DIDN'T PAY THEM. SO I GOT THE WORD OUT TO THE DRIVERS. THEN THE COMPANY TOLD ME TO TAKE A HIKE.
    SORRY , I CAN'T WORK THAT WAY. CHEATING THE DRIVERS.

    HEY, LETS TALK ABOUT SETTLEMENTS!! ! !!! hee, hee,
     
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  10. DoubleDear

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    I like your Armed and Dangerous sign, LuvtheRoad ! Cool!

    The carrier that makes some profits, and the driver suffers is correct.
    Some companies have a huge turn over rate, that if they can keep a driver for at least a month, the company is making out. That's okay, they just keep turning the drivers over like hot cakes.

    I applied as a recruiter with " GAINEY TRANSPORT", AND THAT'S HOW THEY DO BUSINESS. I was told at the Interview for the position,,,, to just keep them "drivers" coming in. "If We hold onto them for a month? We're Good". NO, I don't want that JOB.

    Maybe , I should keep applying for inside jobs with these trucking Companies ? Many inside workers won't speak up for fear of losing their jobs. I'd rather lose it,, than cheat.

    A LOT of Trucking Companies NEED to Be Put OUT of Business ! NOT the OWNER OPERATORS being Forced Out of Business, because they can't make their truck payments. Or House Hold Expenses.

    It's not the Fuel,,,,, Not the Economy! That's called the Blame Game. There's GOOD Work and Good Companies.,, but hard to find. There's just too Many Trucking Companies that are Crooks.
     
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  11. luvtheroad

    luvtheroad Road Train Member

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    Thanks! Found that thing by mistake and since I love shoes and purses... NO, I do not wear high heels to drive, thank you. LOL (Wear 'em at other times lol) :biggrin_25525:
    The turnover rate for some of the bigger companies is well over 100% one had a rate of 139% if I remember correctly. Most new drivers quit by the first 30 days, then 90 days. It's not what they thought it was going to be in regard to a career. Lot of other factors go into companies being unable to retain new drivers. Not defending the companies this is just a fact. Another stat for the Mom and Pop carriers shutting down is 1. driver retention 2. insurance and 3. cost of fuel. Biggest factors, besides all the other obvious ones.
    Going inside and trying to do what you think is the right thing is all well and good. We all should try to do the right thing. You can quietly do the right thing and survive to help others or you can jump on your bandwagon and windup getting fired, simply because you're honest. Very few employers want the person who points out what's wrong with their company to remain in their employ. and you make your supervisor look bad. You make the other powers that be, look bad. You will get fired. Believe me, I know. If you continue to work for companies and get let go, it will ruin your chances to get jobs that you deserve and you won't be helping anyone, let alone yourself. My advice is quietly do the right thing. I admire your convictions and it's too bad more people don't feel the way you do. If they did, we wouldn't be having these conversations LOL.
    The bad guys always get theirs, it seems like it takes forever but it does or will happen. I've been around to see a lot of them drop by the side of the road, so it does happen.
    You're decision not to work for the "Gaineys" of the world is wise, there are good carriers out there and you'll find the one that fits you. Good luck.
     
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