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Originally Posted by bigblue19  don't get the connection between higher taxes and unions.
Federal and state workers are covered by Unions. I pay taxes to support their benefits and pension funds which in many cities have caused those Municipality's to go bankrupt or keep raising taxes.
Communist connection is lost to me. Communist China has no unions and don't allow them
The connection between the communist party and Unions in their inception- and structure is well documented. The difference between the two is their goal which in a communist shop is productivity and in the US it maintaining tenure and benefits despite productivity or conduct..
We as working class Americans owe them what we had; good jobs, good pay, 5 day 40 work week, overtime, medical benefits, vacation and retirement. Most of which we have lost.
The problem is that people think they are owed more then their employer has offered. If you desire those things you have listed, then work for someone who offers it. |
None of what the working class has now, (had), would have ever been achieved with out the unions. There is no way you can change that in what you say; if you know history. Unless you were born with " Silver Spoon in Your Mouth" you owe what you got to unions.
Other wise you would still be working 16-18 hrs a day 6-7 days a week. Tell me people did not have to work 16-18 hrs a day 6 to 7 das a week. Tell me children did not have to work in sweat shops.
Truck drivers now have to work 6-7 das a week 11 hours a day. Because the government has rules that limit driving hours and time off. The gov is in a way acting as your union. We lost unions and union protection in the 1980's due to that dirty piece of **** Ronald Reagan. I know I was the bad changes that have taken place since. I saw the construction industry completely taken over by MEXICAN INVADERS, THE REAL WORD FOR THESE MEXICANS WAS JUST BLOCK BY THIS WEBSITE. (Appearantly this website indulges in censorship and political correctness. I am about fed-up with this.). Don't tell me how hard union workers work; I was there I did that hard ### work and made a living until that Reagan traitor helped destroy unions. I suppose your happy that millions of Mexican invaders who are now in our country doing our work. I suppose you will be happy when Mexicans take your truck driving jobs. You and others like you need to stop talk'n trash about unions and re-evaluate your history.
"Those Who Don't Know History are Doomed to Repeat It". And we are now repeating it.
The problem is companies want keep as much money as they can to themselves because the are greedy, they want 10 houses and 10 cars. They want to bleed labor and hold themselves up as saviors, They want to say I gave you a job. They refuse to recognize that without workers they would have no business and they would be standing there doing their own work by themselves. And they would have fewer customers because fewer people would be working.
Federal unions and state unions can't really strike and really have no reason to they have job security which off sets their ability to call for strikes. This problem is out, so wages is the next point. They make about $16.00 an hr some less some more depending job skills, non skilled verses skilled and it dependes on the state your in. What would you have them get paid? They are a completely different that trade unions. In trade unions if you aren't making the contractor money you'll be fired.
Sorry I didn't mean to get carried away but when I worked as hard as I did and I hear that crap about unions it gets me out of sorts.
We probably need to get off this subject we are why off topic.
08.26.2008
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