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Old 04.01.2008
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Hey rummy lets see you put that analytical mind to work comparing the premium and the premium plus pay plans.
You will make more with prem plus at years end. Provided you aren't a screwball that can't make bonuses.
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Rums Rants#3

STAA Routeing is ignored by Roehl

Friday afternoon. 1300 hrs (local time) Just emptied out in Fresno,Ca.

Preplan: Fresno,Ca pre loaded trl to King City,Ca appointment time 1630 hrs empty=1 mile, loaded=112.

Looks like a pretty simple run and is quickly confirmed because of the appointment time. Have to get going and need the rest of the information in order to get moving. Have some time to spare but not much.

Send in Preplan confirmed

Receive load assignment / Fuel and routeing

No fuel required. US 41s 31, CA 198w 87, US 101n 7

Uh ohhh small problem here. Ca 198 is not a highlighted route on your motor carrier road atlas. This road is not part of the staa network which allows travel with our 53' trailers. Take a look at the California restricted routes. Ca 198 is not on the list of restricted routes and no low bridges.

So is Ca 198 a legal road to travel on? Correct answer = I don't know.

So when in doubt get out your DRG. Look up routing (page 8-7). You have a conflict between your atlas and routing (Ca 198 is not a highlighted staa route).

Driver: I need to know if it is legal to run on Ca 198, It is not highlighted on my map

DSR: Is it a restricted route?

Driver: No, it is not restricted just not highlighted on the staa network. It may or may not be legal. I have no way of knowing.

DSR: Well it looks like a principal road to me.

Driver: I agree, but that doesn't tell me if it's legal for me to run or not.

DSR: How would I know if it's legal or not. Did you call the California DOT?

Ok lets stop here for a second. I need to deliver this load, do I really have the time to call the California DOT? But lets say I do call them.

Driver: Is Ca 198 ok for me to drive across from coalinga to san lucas with a 53' trailer?

Ca DOT: Sure

Ok called the Ca DOT, get rolling down the road, turn onto Ca 198, get 5 miles west of coalinga and get pulled over by a state trooper. Get an over length ticket from the trooper.

Driver: I called the DOT and they said it was ok.

Trooper: Prove it

Driver: Look at my cell phone records.

Trooper: Ok you called the DOT but that does not show proof that they said is was a legal road. It only shows you called them.

Time to call Roehl

Driver: I got an overlength ticket on Ca 198

DSR: Didn't you call the DOT to check and see if that was a legal road?

Driver: Yes I did, but the trooper said I have no proof. Is Roehl going to pay for this ticket?

DSR: (Clears his throat and quotes ) DRG page 8-7 "It is your responsibilty to make sure your route is safe and legal to drive". Anything else I can help you with?

Now as a driver I can see that Ca 198 is not highlighted so rather then go thru this whole lengthy time consumeing process that will make me late for my appointment. I will simply follow US41 s to Paso Robles then take US 101 n into King City. This only adds 50 miles to the run and I know I am legal.

But with todays riseing fuel prices, is this the right thing to do? Isn't there a better way? Doesn't Roehl want me to drive over legal roads?

So that is the problem, what is the solution?

The permit dept should have a listing of roads that are available to use with a 53' trailer that are not listed on the road atlas. They should have this listing backed up with a fax from the governing state. This list should be available to the DSR's who can quickly answer yes or no on the legal status of the roadway.

The question is simple and the answer should be simple too. Yes or No
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Hey rummy lets see you put that analytical mind to work comparing the premium and the premium plus pay plans.
LOL I am just a truck driver. Funny you bring that up cause I have looked it over several times and to be honest I am still confussed.
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Hey rummy lets see you put that analytical mind to work comparing the premium and the premium plus pay plans.
New drivers should take the premium (higher mileage rate). If they ding something up, and chances are that they will, they will have their bonus pulled. They can pull bonuses but not the mileage rate. Experienced drivers are probably better off taking the premium plus. It is geared more to making the bonuses. There is potential to make a little more on premium plus, but have to make your bonuses. The premium plan is more of a sure thing.
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That sucks on the CA198 ticket. How much was the ticket. Roehl should at least pay you an extra 50 miles. Will the ticket affect your bonus. I found a good map of CA truck routes at [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. click on the maps tab and then select truck network map and click on the section of the California map you need.
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That sucks on the CA198 ticket. How much was the ticket. Roehl should at least pay you an extra 50 miles. Will the ticket affect your bonus. I found a good map of CA truck routes at [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. click on the maps tab and then select truck network map and click on the section of the California map you need.
He didn't get a ticket hammer, that was kinda the point of his rant. He goes unpaid out of route because the company won't stand behind the route they send. Greenhorns listen up, if it don't look right don't do it.
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He didn't get a ticket hammer, that was kinda the point of his rant. He goes unpaid out of route because the company won't stand behind the route they send. Greenhorns listen up, if it don't look right don't do it.
Absolutely!!! The DRG defines the opti-stop routing as a "recommended" and "prefered" routing. However!!!! It's the driver who will take the heat and pay the fine if the routing sends you over a truck restricted route!!!

Now, pull some CYA and tell your DSR by Qual-comm that the route is in question and if they insist, via Qual-comm, then you're (sorta) covered. You can also try to get the paid miles changed to reflect the true routing, but that's a chancey deal at best. Also, keep in mind that some REMF is going to only look at the out-of-route miles and not the safety or legal factors involved and try to ding you.

A prime example is running in states that have "thaw-laws" in effect. Opti-stop doesn't know about these and if you follow the route across "thaw-law" weight restricted roads then you are the one liable for the fine. AND!!! It's your job to know about these routes, not ROEHL's to have to tell you!!!

Good call MO!!!!
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Absolutely!!! The DRG defines the opti-stop routing as a "recommended" and "prefered" routing. However!!!! It's the driver who will take the heat and pay the fine if the routing sends you over a truck restricted route!!!

Now, pull some CYA and tell your DSR by Qual-comm that the route is in question and if they insist, via Qual-comm, then you're (sorta) covered. You can also try to get the paid miles changed to reflect the true routing, but that's a chancey deal at best. Also, keep in mind that some REMF is going to only look at the out-of-route miles and not the safety or legal factors involved and try to ding you.

A prime example is running in states that have "thaw-laws" in effect. Opti-stop doesn't know about these and if you follow the route across "thaw-law" weight restricted roads then you are the one liable for the fine. AND!!! It's your job to know about these routes, not ROEHL's to have to tell you!!!

Good call MO!!!!
REMF???

You know I still don't understand the thaw limits. If you gotta be on the road they get a permit for you so at the end of the day what's the point?
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Roehl is currently VERY sensitive to drivers going off the Opti-stop routing -- I know this as I've been read the riot act on it for not clearing my non-optistop routes with them first. Even 25 miles "out of route" is a biggie, even if it's faster, safer and legal. They will, however, run you 90 miles out-of-route to a fuel stop that has the best current price. Getting paid for those extra miles is another matter entirely.
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wow...i am a hammer head...i thought he actually got a ticket. ill go back to bed.
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