Schneider Horrible Pay

Discussion in 'Schneider' started by DriveHer, Jan 19, 2015.

  1. bubbagumpshrimp

    bubbagumpshrimp Medium Load Member

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    By being dicked over, I'm talking about people that aren't bright enough to make an educated decision/run the numbers on their own...and go into it thinking that they're going to make big bucks...when the reality of it is that they'll be doing good just to put food on the table and pay their bills. At the end of the day though, this comes back to a personal accountability issue, as the individual getting dicked over had the opportunity to examine all the facts in question and instead decided to trust a complete stranger/recruiter. Because...you know...you can trust a guy/gal whose means of being compensated and graded comes from how many warm bodies they can put in an orientation class.

    That...to me...ties into what I think is a bigger issue (with the industry as a whole...and I have to assume played into the OP's uninformed decision)...and that is one of business ethics. More accurately, the lack of good business ethics. I came from a business/finance background, so this is something that I'm very conscious of and something that played into my decision when the time came to settle on a trucking company. My $.02...trucking companies would be better served by coming up with a REALISTIC recruiting line. Sure...you'd fill less seats in orientation classes, but the people that do show up would be far more likely to stick around, as they made an informed decision.

    I don't expect to receive treatment that is better or worse than any other driver. That is the basis of my annoyance with much of the industry. That "you newbies should be happy working 60+ hours a week and making peanuts, because that's how I started out." It's not my problem that someone else decided to start out like that. If I have other options (I did)...I'll simply go somewhere that's not going to treat me like an E-1 at boot camp.

    I completely agree. In my CDL class, people were just picking a carrier based off recruiter promises...and said "well...I don't have to stay there forever." No...you don't. However, you MIGHT want to do some research to find out if you could tolerate a job long enough that it won't look like a joke on you resume (the job hopping thing that you mentioned).
     
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  3. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    That's another good way of summing up the issue bgs. My uncles referred me to SNI (didn't get paid, he went to another company.) and so I started by looking at SNI.

    It doesn't mean I didn't look at WE, Swift, OD and all the others that hire newbies. I did my homework. So I don't understand why it is that not doing your homework on a company you plan to work for isn't done. My interviews, I was brazen enough to interview the recruiter in return. Got their phone number and kept in touch even after being hired. Personally, I'd rather work for beans for 6 months to a year. With my long term plan including that I worked at a good and reputable company. Sni's beans don't pay me weekly. ;)

    All of this still points back to responsibility, or lack thereof.
     
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  4. 123456

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    Wrong.

    You are covered by minimum wage law.

    But not overtime law.
     
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  5. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    as a company driver I don't see anything "better" they offer compared to other companies for an experienced driver.
    Above all else the pay and equipment is BELOW average at best.
     
  6. hawkjr

    hawkjr Road Train Member

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    Ok let's break this down

    1. Alot of people in general are woo'ed by false advertising and refusing to do research for committing. You wanna know where this happens the most?? Facebook!! If you gotta Facebook, go down your news feed and see how much junk people share that is flat out BS especially if you look at the source. Does it happen more in the trucking industry? Yes with out a shout of a doubt, they usually prey on people without common sense or folks looking for a quick come up without thinking about the consequences.

    2. Recruiting is just what recruiting is, telling what you wanna hear so you could feel good about taking the job. Same thing the Army does, same thing your favorite college football coach does to get that kid to come to his school. Just gotta figure out, with the company pitches if it's BS or not.

    3. No one is saying you deserve to be treated less then a seasoned driver from a personal standpoint, but the fact of the matter is, if Joe been there for 40 years and you've only been there 1, then I'm pretty sure when something great comes up and the boss knows who he can definitely depend on that Joe will be called up to run that load.

    And this just doesn't go on at bottom feeders OTR companies, I don't know if you ended up finding an LTL gig like you was looking for but look how that chain goes..

    Line-Haul guys make all the gravy, job is just driving from point A to Point B and returning back to Point A.

    Local P&D sometimes gotta make 30 stops in a day, no where near as much (well at least starting off) as those Line-Haul guys make. And usually those Line-Haul gigs stay full until someone leaves, then you gotta hope those guys who got seniority over you on the P&D side don't want it first.

    So it goes on all over trucking regardless if your OTR, Fuel, LTL or etc...

    And the carrier I recommended you to, Van Wyk we all started off the same percentage wise regardless or experience. And over 2 years you was topped out at the highest which was 25%. Now did some of us who had been there a while got to pick dibbs om what load we wanted on a Weekday? Yes, but that was for guys who was experienced and who was dependable and who also been there for a while.

    Does it suck when your first starting out that your low on the totem pole? Yes it does, but if you do your job you won't be there for long, so at the end that's all that matters.
     
  7. hawkjr

    hawkjr Road Train Member

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    You must be referring to the Schneider, Swift, Prime, & JB's of the world right?
     
  8. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    no, Schneider.

    those other companies actually pay better and have better equipment than Schneider from what I've seen.
     
  9. stevep1977

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    You never were a company driver at Schneider, how would you know? You think Swift pays better than Schneider? LOL Prime? Doubt it. JB Hunt? Their equipment looks like complete junk going down the highway, the crappy MaxForce Internationals. So yeah, this statement is far from accurate. As far as crappy equipment? Trailers are fine as far as I'm concerned, and as far as company tractors go the drivers beat the crap out of them and schneider doesn't repair any body work so if you smash up your fairings the tractor is going to remain smashed up.
     
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  10. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    Comparing Schneider with swift and jb? how dare you!
     
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  11. moosc

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    No truck company is going to pay to or close to minimum wage. Hell we do 70 hours a week. Go back to McDonald's.
     
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