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Hey Roadmedic would this be wrong ? at 10% of the profit wouldn't you have to run at least 428.57 miles a day for 7 day week for at least $2.00 per mile average just to gross $600.00. With 0 deadhead....... before taxes?? Is that right or my figures off.
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I believe that I posted in the dreaded zone somewhere else I'll wait and see
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I would beg to very strongly disagree that you are starting at 2 yrs experience pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10% of $2 a mile is only $0.20 cents a mile. I HAVE NEVER drove a truck for that cheap.

Not to be rude here, but I would be running like the wind away from this job myself. There are so many inconsistencies with the job description it sounds like a good way for the driver to really get the shaft. I've got a lot of alarm bells going off in my head over this one.




And while I agree that % is a good way to generate motivation in a driver its also an extremely good way for the driver to get royally screwed!

You mentioned this is a good paying job. I wouldn't really call the suggested revenue that either.
Over $1200 a week after taxes is good paying. $1100 before taxes isn't any thing to brag about.
It is better than nothing tho.
Ok, I see where the confusion is. Normally $250/week for 6 months is how long a big company will hold the hand of a new driver. I think for a few weeks you ride along and not even allowed to drive. I'm talking about 8 weeks, here. After that period, they bump up to 20% or more depending on performance. If 10% is paying $0.20/mile, double that.

If you think $1100/week isn't that great then I guess this job won't be anything to flip over. I know some people would like to just like a regular paycheck over nothing. I think you understand that as much as anyone here does.
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I worked many jobs like this starting out 25+ years ago,the pay was 16-19cpm or percentage equaling.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM was working for a Contractor sitting on his comfy 9 to 5 drawing a salary or pension. I was always the center act of the circus.

Short checks,bounced checks was the reward for running old school survival 101 on the big road.

These one trick pony outfits never work out for anyone but the truck owner.Nothing has change nor will it.
With all the noble intentions and promises the driver has always been screwed in the end.
The offer is for a Job,if ya gotta ya gotta I guess. . . .
But unemployment and foodstamps would be a safer bet.

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I would beg to very strongly disagree that you are starting at 2 yrs experience pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10% of $2 a mile is only $0.20 cents a mile. I HAVE NEVER drove a truck for that cheap.

Not to be rude here, but I would be running like the wind away from this job myself. There are so many inconsistencies with the job description it sounds like a good way for the driver to really get the shaft. I've got a lot of alarm bells going off in my head over this one.




And while I agree that % is a good way to generate motivation in a driver its also an extremely good way for the driver to get royally screwed!

You mentioned this is a good paying job. I wouldn't really call the suggested revenue that either.
Over $1200 a week after taxes is good paying. $1100 before taxes isn't any thing to brag about.
It is better than nothing tho.
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Factor in tax's and road expenses and your right,the job ain't to far from "nothing for nothing"

Yes my view is that of a Contractor in a 6 truck operation.The pay here is $.40 all miles run under a $.92 loaded/$.46 empty contract.(down from $.97 all miles)

FWIW;
It cost $.36 per mile to run these 06 Columbia's.
6) trucks did $2.9 million in revenue last year,after repairs and expenses (Advil)the "Company" cleared $132K profit for its efforts.

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If you think $1100/week isn't that great then I guess this job won't be anything to flip over. I know some people would like to just like a regular paycheck over nothing. I think you understand that as much as anyone here does.
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regular pay is one thing but running your asssssssssss off for peanuts is another, I can pull heavy or light doesn't matter, the way you hold the wheel is the same (kinda wink wink) you guys know what I mean. 10% is squat unless it's hauling gold
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Well since I'm the Rob they were mentioning I'll weigh in. I do have some long deadheads but by my choice. Since I will deliver overnight from anywhere to just about anywhere else within reason I'd much rather have a good 1k+ load then some 250 mile small paying load since each will cost me a day of the week to work. I've asked my broker to just tell me where the closest larger load is rather than the closest load. For me it makes sense as long as the rate can bear it.

Anyway ease up a little on this guy. You all already have him pegged as stealing from the driver or "getting rich" at the driver's expense. I assure you neither is true. He has some bugs to work out and I expect that any driver that gives it a shot will participate in the compromising process over a couple of weeks to makes sure it works out for all parties involved. M is starting out now and learning the ropes but I have found him to be very reasonable.
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Ok, I see where the confusion is. Normally $250/week for 6 months is how long a big company will hold the hand of a new driver. ....snipped...
While I'm sure there are many people willing to accept that as fact. The words Mental ###### spring to mind where I hear someone has.

How about .30 a mile, on average for the beginning driver.

I realize that too is changing. It's going down steadily as the recession deepens. But you're way ahead of the mega companies with those wage cuts.

Kudos for being such a forward thinker.
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....snipped... I'd much rather have a good 1k+ load then some 250 mile small paying load since each will cost me a day of the week to work. ....snipped...
If you're losing money on these short hops. Somebody in the food chain is stealing it.

No decent company or broker will touch any of those without a minimum being applied. It generally works out to $3 a mile plus. I've seen some work out in excess of $6 a mile. It depends on the rate card, and the minimums.

The guys here, pull cotton from gin to warehouse. 7 miles either way. It pays $50 a load. Generally they get 3 or 4 loads a day easily. It's seasonal, but when it's moving it pays #### good.
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If you're losing money on these short hops. Somebody in the food chain is stealing it.

No decent company or broker will touch any of those without a minimum being applied. It generally works out to $3 a mile plus. I've seen some work out in excess of $6 a mile. It depends on the rate card, and the minimums.

The guys here, pull cotton from gin to warehouse. 7 miles either way. It pays $50 a load. Generally they get 3 or 4 loads a day easily. It's seasonal, but when it's moving it pays #### good.

There are some things like that, for instance if a corn farmer doesn't have enough product to get me up to weight, then they will bill it as a mini and I'm paid as if full.

These runs aren't short enough to qualify for what you are talking about. In reality I could do 2, maybe even 3 on a good day which would be fine, but the problem always comes down to the hours of the shippers/receivers. Very few of them have hours beyond 8am to 4pm. Usually I'm at the receiver unloading at 8, may have a line or a product that takes some coaxing to get out, or both. Then I may be rushing to get to my next load by 3pm or closing. So at that point I can't deliver it until 8am the next day wherever it is going. This is why I'd rather have 600+ miles than 200. The shorter load may pay $350 while the longer is $900. So which would you rather be unloading at 8am the next day? It's like that.
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