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Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad Load O' Freight That Just Can't Wait. Had a good or bad experience with a shipper or receiver? Discuss grocery warehouses, lumpers, and anything dealing with pickups or deliveries here. Does that shipper let you park and sleep? Does the receiver FORCE you to get a lumper?

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Old 04.10.2008
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I dont think a shipper/receiver has any right to it either

We went to one consignee to deliver a load (don't remember which it was, have to ask my hubby when he gets back in truck, inside truck stop right now) they not only asked us for both of our drivers license but they kept our license as hostage until we left the gate. When you give them your license they give you an ID card with a little clip to clip it to your shirt. When I asked why they were keeping our license they said it was because some drivers had lost their ID card because the tag comes apart from the clip if you are not careful with it. So, you cannot have your license back until you either return the tag or pay 10.00 to have it replaced if you lose it.
Sounds like easy way to make money Tags come off easy yea on purpose.
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Give them a company id card but not your dl... if they are not a cop or anyone in a law enforcement position you dont have to give them a dl and they can not hold your dl.... if they want their fright they will let you in.
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The 9 drivers who abandoned their rigs and fled the scene of the accident in Newhall, (southbound side through blind-side tunnel overpass) on the evening of Oct. 12, 2007 were all owner-operators. From that incident alone, we should be suspicious of all owner-operators. When a company driver gets his/her licensed revoked/suspended, or fails a random drug test, the insurance company immediately notifies the carrier, who in turn orders the driver to park the truck immediately until they can send another driver to take possession of the truck & trailer. This is not the case with owner-operators. When their license is revoked/suspended, the insurance company doesn't realize it until its time to renew the insurance policy (to evaluate the risk-factor of continuing to insure the O/O). With company drivers, insurance companies routinely lookup the driver's MV record every 2 weeks to make sure there are no DUI or any alcohol-related charges that may indicate the driver has a drinking problem.

From an insurance company's perspective (and risk-factor evaluation), alcohol-related offenses (like open container) is a sign the driver is possibly a heavy drinker. When he/she is convicted, its likely he/she had committed the offense repeatedly, and had just gotten caught that one time.


BTW, on the quote from Rokk, I made spelling and punctuation corrections.
You really should be conscientious of the red underlines as you type out your replies. Your grammar use, spelling, punctuation, and other grammatical errors are an indication of your educational background. I spoke to my terminal manager about the possibility of a link between drivers' intelligence, and their risk in getting involved in a chargeable accident. I brought this up after reading a news article about a driver who loss control of his semi truck because he bent down to pick up a music CD that had fallen on the floor while he was driving. It was stupid enough that he took his attention off his driving to pick up a CD, but to actually TELL this to the investigating officer !! I would've lied and said some 4-wheeler had cut me off, and lost control when I swerved to avoid the other guy. When you make a serious critical error, you initiate DAMAGE CONTROL to reduce the detrimental consequences of your negligence (or is this a concept you've never heard of ??). Anyway, he's considering to include a word-problem question test on the application process. When he calls a driver to interview them, if he feels he/she is a good candidate, we ask them to look over the question, and see if they can answer them correctly. I'll post these word-problem questions at a later date to get your feedbacks.
That was smart if you own the truck why run Your name and address is still sitting there waiting on the police.

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The problem is that they have to keep track of who is hauling their freight so they can reassure the shipper that things are under control, we know who the driver is, he's not a terrorist, there will be no claim on your insurance, yada yada yada, that is all that they are concerned about. I knew someone would come up with a way to secure one's social security number, drivers license number...and they did, the commercial is where this guy has his SS# posted on the side of a truck which just drives around the city for exposure, he's so confident that some screwball won't mess with his info. that he guarantees it up to a million dollars. We'll see how that all works out.

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I knew someone would come up with a way to secure one's social security number, drivers license number...and they did, the commercial is where this guy has his SS# posted on the side of a truck which just drives around the city for exposure, he's so confident that some screwball won't mess with his info. that he guarantees it up to a million dollars. We'll see how that all works out.
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Company is called "Lifelock"... do a search on Google. Have not signed up with them, so I can't personally say whether or not they are able to do what they claim.
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I have been a guard at varies DC and relay yards (Usf,Wal-Mart,Meridian Iq,Old Dominion) here in So.Cal for about 2 years.

And I've never asked for a Pro Driver for his/her CDL. If the driver has the load number, and trl number. They can take that !##$ trailer.
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I never gave a shipper or reciever my DL for anything. They said I had to give it to them, I asked if they were a cop ? NO. I said take down the trk # lic plate, trlr # Thats all they were going to get. They did not let me in, quick call to my FM and I got in with out having to give out my personal info.
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most that ask for that, just take a quick glance to see if name and pic match.
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Found another very anoying thing at some shippers/Receivers. They ask you to produce your drivers license and write down your driver license #. Personaly I have a problem with it, it is my lisence and what ever information they want they can get from my company ID.
In this day and age ID theft is much more on the forefront, How do we know they (the shipper/receiver) have the proper rules/procedures in place to safe guard the information they collect from your drivers license?

I am making a point to report this practice to my company and they deal with it accordingly.

Just wondered how other drivers feel about this practice?

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How would you like telling a construction company employee your Social Security number over the phone to get you on a Navy base? I didn't like it too much. I guess it's not much different than giving it to the gate guard,though?
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Lightbulb Stare decisis

"Stare decisis" is legal jargon meaning "to stand by things decided" in Latin. These shippers & receivers are ignoring your concerns of identity theft because to this date, there has never been a lawsuit filed by any driver, claiming he/she had suffered "identity theft" due to a shippers/receivers policy of collecting confidential info. Until someone has the foresight and intellect to start gathering data, then later follow up with a lawsuit after becoming the victim of identity theft, these people will ignore your concerns and simply do as they're told.

To prepare this case, you need to start keeping a written record of the name, address, date, time, and person you spoke with, who insisted on collecting the data after you've voiced your concerns of identity theft. They can later claim you had the right to withold the info, but voluntarily gave it without asking if it was mandatory or not. Politely ask the person to give his/her full name, which you'll need when you file a lawsuit. Ask to see a pictured ID to ascertain they had not given you a bogus name. It may be prudent not to mention you're gathering data for a possible future lawsuit, and they'd likely be honest in giving you their real name. Bring a digital camera (or use your cellphone camera) and take a picture of the log entry sheet, so you have picture evidence of the entire sheet with your confidential info written on it, along with all the drivers above your name who were compelled to give this info.

In every civil lawsuit, denial is a very common defense to have the case dismissed, so it's important to have written records, pictures, audio, and or
video of the incident to corroborate your claim. After you've become the victim of identity theft, it's likely you've generated a long list of shippers/receivers who had collected confidential data from you; everyone on your list should be named as defendants in your lawsuit. Its likely
they're first tactic to have their name removed from the list of defendants, is to claim it was voluntary, and you had the right to refuse to show your CDL. Had you kept an audio recording of the conversation when you stated you would rather not comply, and they pressured you into compliance of their policy, then this first legal tactic will fail. If you
can't record the conversation, ask for a copy of their written policy, stating "drivers must show CDL, and shippers/receivers must record confidential data." A copy of their written policy will strenghten your lawsuit.

Another option is to take a digital picture of the log entry book, and names, phone numbers, or email address of the drivers who had witnessed your reluctance to give classified info. You would need to subpoena these drivers, or gather written statements called "affidavits" to corroborate your claim. Because this is a standard practice among shippers/receivers, you would file a "Class Action" lawsuit, meaning you represent not only yourself, but every driver who had ever picked up or delivered on their property.

A class action lawsuit is often a minimum, 1 million dollars in punitive damage alone. Punitive damage means you're asking the judge to punish the defendant for their behaviour (practice), and should make an example by imposing monetary award as a deterent for others not to do this. Say you get a letter, stating you owe $1,000 for an unpaid credit card you never applied for, and it cost you another $200 in filing fees, and having to hire someone to resolve the matter and clear your name (you don't need to resolve this first, before suing the shippers/receivers who had caused this. File your lawsuit while trying to clear your name). You now have $1,200 in actual damage alone. If you want to include $10,000 in emotional stress, you'll need to show document proof of this, so it's prudent to schedule an appointment with a therapist. Even if you're not really that stressed, schedule an appointment and tell the therapist you can't eat, sleep, or have sex with your wife because this experience has greatly disturbed you, leaving you sexually impotent. Because your wife had been deprived of her need for sex, she's now a plaintiff in this case (there are other ways to sexually satisfy your wife, but that's another topic); she had indirectly suffered from this as well. Without this document proof of seeing a therapist, as a result of an "identity theft" crisis in your life, the judge will likely dismiss your claim of emotional stress.

So the therapist sends you a $200 bill, which you past off to your medical insurance coverage. You now have $1,400 in actual damage, $10,000 for pain and emotional stress, and (just to make a nice round figure) $1,988,600 in punitive damage, for a total of 2 million dollars. A lawsuit this big will pressure the defendants to offer a compromised amount to settle out of court. Your lawyer will get a letter from the defendant's lawyer, offering maybe $10,000 for you to settle the matter. Once you've filed a lawsuit, a defense attorney will evaluate the chances of you winning this case. If the defense lawyer feels your chances of winning are pretty good, they will send your attorney a letter, offering to settle out of court. If you don't receive this letter, then their evaluation is, you're not going to win this case, and the judge will dismiss the case as "frivolous."

Unless every shipper/receiver on your list is domiciled in the same state (local or short-haul drivers), you would need to file in a Federal civil court, not a state civil court. If your case is filed in the wrong court level, they can claim "outside jurisdiction" defense, and defendants who qualify for this claim can have their name removed from your lawsuit. If you're a local or short-haul driver who never crosses the stateline, then a state civil court will suffice. When you find an attorney to represent you, only give him/her copies of your evidence, but don't let him/her know they're copies. Attorneys can be bribed for the right amount. I've heard rumors of lawyers representing a plaintiff in a case, who met in secret with the defendant's lawyers, or the defendant themselves. They would offer the plaintiff's attorney a huge sum to sabotage the case, and before you know it, your lawyer suddenly becomes incompetent and doesn't file the right papers in time, or doesn't show up in court on a trial date, resulting in your case being dismissed. A good indication a lawyer took a bribe, is when you ask for all the records and evidence to hire another lawyer, and he says all the records were loss or destroyed in a recent unforeseen incident.
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