They can always just refuse the shipment and any other shipments from you.

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My point is...no matter who is ultimately paying the lumping cost, when you give a lumper a wad, he has to give a lot of it to the dock. I have no problem with this. I couldn't possibly care less. However, a time or two I have been asked to pay for lumping out of my own pocket. Well....That is one thing I'd pull an 'instant quit' over. I'd call a cab and leave it sitting in the dock if I were asked to pay for a lumper myself.

Make sure you never have to pay for a lumper out of your own pocket. Also, if you're an O/O, make sure the lumping cost is added to the amount the load pays. If you don't do this, lumping fees will become a subtraction, absolutely, meaning YOU will be paying the fees. And considering the dock will get most of what you pay a lumper, you don't want to do this unless you like subsidizing docks.

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Yeah I drive a Swift truck
And that means one thing
It means she's slow
It's a typical company truck
It's just all show and no go

I'm gettin' passed by Yella
And even Overnite
I'm gettin' passed by ever' body in sight
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight

No, my hometown's nowhere in sight
And if you think I'm pissed off
You're right
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight


Love pissing off those trucking company insiders.

Sure they could, but if you think about it, the product I was delivering had (at that time) only ONE manufacturer (Atwood....owned by Steelcase) and Steelcase shipped it on Equity trailers pulled it by Equity tractors.

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Already did it. I went to the Wal-Mart DC in Temple, Texas once and had to do it. I had to use a sweat jack and was unloading a fridge with the vent slots. The humid air caused condensation to form on those cold slots, which froze in less than a minute. I had to walk on ice as I tried to first unjam each pallet and then yank it out. I had 22 pallets on board, and each weighed around 1700.

Never again did I do that. Never will again, either.

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--Paved Dudley--

Yeah I drive a Swift truck
And that means one thing
It means she's slow
It's a typical company truck
It's just all show and no go

I'm gettin' passed by Yella
And even Overnite
I'm gettin' passed by ever' body in sight
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight

No, my hometown's nowhere in sight
And if you think I'm pissed off
You're right
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight


Love pissing off those trucking company insiders.

I believe the receiver of goods should be repsponsible for unloading the freight. Either they have the employee's to unload it or they should take care of lumper fees.

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Boy I agree with the above posts... today had to repack 15000lbs of rice from regular skids onto CHEP skids at a grocery warehouse. Thats A LOT of rice to be moving by hand on your own. And it was my first stop... Oh well, I always look at it that I am paid to do a gym workout, but I am sore all over right now!

I have a few questions;
1. Someone posted that when he paid a lumper with the receipt they withheld it from his check for what ever weeks then he was taxed because of the increase in that weeks paycheck. Shouldn't the lumper reimbursement be non- taxable as it was a reimbursement?
2. Are most of the problems that are posted on here because of O/O's getting reimbursed or company drivers or both?

To me if a driver unloads the load he unloads it as it was stacked in the truck. It should be the warehouse's responsibility to move or restack how THEY want it. I bet if the driver charges the warehouse with restacking fee this crap would stop. Unloading is unloading restacking is not unloading it is restacking a load. To restack it charge more to do that because you are now a Warehouse Design Coordination Manager or some name like that. I'm sure some of you could come up with a catchy title. Just wondering if anyone has tried to charge the warehouse a re-stacking fee?

Here is how the conversation goes;
Driver: I’m going to unload the load myself
Warehouse: That is fine I guess if you want to but we have lumpers.
Driver: No that’s ok I’ll do it need the extra cash.
Warehouse: Let’s look at the way it’s stacked.
Warehouse: Oh that will not do it needs to be restacked because (you add reason)
Driver: No problem let me get my receipt book for you to sign.
Warehouse: Why do you need your receipt book?
Driver: You did say you needed it restacked?
Warehouse: Yes
Driver: I’m no longer an unloader. You hired me to restack it. My duty title just changed to Warehouse Design Coordination Manager Consultant. That is an hourly fee of $100
Warehouse: You have got to be S***ing me.
Driver: Do you want me to restack it or not? If you do before I start I will need your signiture on the receipt that you authorized the agreement of payment, and before I leave I need to be paid in full for my technical consult. I don’t take checks, credit cards, or vouchers only CASH.


As you can tell I’m not a driver just waiting for classes to start at the college in trucking just someone looking from the outside in perspective.

Some of you are complaining about how much more the lumper gets. Well look at it this was the companies could start telling the drivers to do it all the time for even less then what your getting now to do it. I don’t care what the lumper gets as long as I don’t have to unload it. If you think you’re getting cheated change from driver to lumper job.
Man work one truck and get $300 dollars to unload where do I sign up at. Call me the Lumper Pimp Daddy.
I have to agree the lumper can’t be making but around $10 if that. If they are making a good chunk of that lets say $300 maybe they aren’t so dumb after all.

JMO

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Don't we all

An interesting idea. Only problem is, that's only an option if you own the truck. A company driver cannot do this, at least not on his own.

Whoever pays the freight charges is the reason for the sort-and-segregate crapola. If what the shipper were to typically send on 5 skids were seperated the way the receiver would want it and sent on 20 skids, they now have to pay for that much more space taken up on the truck. For LTL carriers this means they can now charge truckload rates, which are astronomical.

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Good point Mack E!

Boy, have I ever mulled this one over, slugging 20lb boxes from one regular skid to another CHEP skid. Gives you plenty of time to think about the logic behind things... and yes, if the shipper were to do their packing differently, it would benefit us, the drivers, and the receivers, but it would hurt their freight charges, and how much they can ship at a time. Think about it too, CHEP skids weigh a WHOLE BUNCH more than regular skids... adds up in the end.