And you really believe that crapola? Laziness ...Ha!!

When 10 skids turns into 25, that's not "a little rain" as you whimsically put it. That's a whole lot of unnecessary BS. You've never even had to do that, have you?

It's their product. Let them seperate it.

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I really don't mind lumpers. It is part of the industry, and we might as well accept it.

When I started in this industry, lumpers were, for the most part, individuals who hung out at a location and worked for pure profit. When I brought a load of meat to NYC, Boston, or wherever, the guy(s) unloading the truck made the money, and it was pure profit. SSN or EID? sure, they would right down some numbers, or tell you to write down some, LOL.

Today, most places now have freight unloading companies onsite. You get the freight unloaded, and you get a legitimate receipt.

This is how shippers/receivers choose to do business. It is not the concern of the truck driver or trucking company. If you are an owner operator, it is your job to check into the possibility of unloading charges, and make sure you are hauling the freight for enough revenue to cover this. If you are a company driver, it is your companies problem to deal with this. To add to this, if you area company driver, and the company doesn't want to pay for unloading, find another company, unless you want to unload the trucks yourself.

Shippers and receivers factor in the cost of this when they agree on the cost of the product, and the shipping cost. Some receivers, and a few shippers, don't want to front the cost of benefits and insurance to cover those who load/unload trucks. This task is handed down to freight unloading companies and "lumpers".

Just accept that it isn't going away, and plan ahead for it.

I never saw a lumper in a pipe yard. Enough said.

I used to haul Michelin, Gerber, Nabisco, Clorox and American Home Foods when they were in business. I can do the lumper's job better than most lumpers. I've had 75 pallet loads before with small wood in there for some of the grocery warehouses added for fun. I all paid well to unload if you were willing, and with the HOS as they are now.. it makes more sense to be compensated for the time while it runs out than sitting watching TV while not making a cent,

If you pay a lumper out of your own pocket whether or not the company reimburses you for it, and if that lumper is an illegal alien, can the feds get you for hiring an illegal?

I never saw a tarp in the wind, freezing weather, etc. Enough said.

Ohhh. I have! I'd much rather be lumping the freight than un-strapping and un-tarping a frozen load of sheet rock in -50 weather again.. I love the cold, but that was just a huge PITA!!! I woke up some old cold weather injuries that day!

well that is all well and good for you that you think you are so much better than everyone else-
seems i have met alot of people like you since i started driving trucks- you think you know it ALL
the truth of the matter is-- not all companies PAY drivers to unload frieght, and if they do it is peanuts-- why should i do things i am not getting paid to do? and even IF the driver WANTED to unload it himself-- MOST OF THE TIME these places will make it as hard as possible for the driver to do it.
for example- i went to one place that charged 75 dollars for thier own employee to pull the pallets off of the trailer-- THEY SAID 'the driver can do it if he wants"...ok.... guess what?- THEY WONT LET TRUCK DRIVERS USE POWERED JACKS to pull the pallets-- "you can use that hand jack" they say
trailer was setting UPHILL in the dock slightly and it was impossible to pull the 1000- 1500 lbs paletts uphill off the trailer.

another place i went once wanted all the paletts broken down-- except they refused to tell me how to break them down.

I didn't just fall off of a turnip truck. I've been doing this for awhile and have seen far too many drivers sit on their butts and complain about things rather than getting off of their butts and getting things done. I never said I was better than anyone, I just don't give money away because I'm lazy.

Why would you work for a company not willing to pay you to do your job. And of course when the peanuts is $16 to $30 an hour, I'll take load of em!

And most of the time, the drivers never even get that far, or they are so angry that they are required to do it, that they are predisposed to think that way. Not to mention that truckers are becoming a bigger bunch of victims that they parade on the Oprah show.

Not impossible, unless you do not know what you are doing. Albertsons is not one of my favorites for that practice, but since the freight has to be broken down anyway, work the pallets in the trailer and the problem is solved.

Can you read a tie and high sheet? I'm not buying this one in the least!

Well, part of the reason for that is the rule about electric lift truck operators having to be certified. They don't want the liability

Now, I am a big enough man to handle unloading freight that heavy with a hand jack. That would make for a good workout and I have no problem with that.

Now THIS is what I find unacceptable. Hypothetically, I just unloaded 24 skids and dropped them on the dock. Now they want me separate THEIR product?!?

No. I don't think so. And if Fozzy there wants to call that the ranting of a lazy man, then he must be the east end of a west bound horse and can walk west until his hat floats.

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