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Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad Load O' Freight That Just Can't Wait. Had a good or bad experience with a shipper or receiver? Discuss grocery warehouses, lumpers, and anything dealing with pickups or deliveries here. Does that shipper let you park and sleep? Does the receiver FORCE you to get a lumper? Trucker Directions

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Old 07.29.2007
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You do have a point, 9Ball

"you sound like a racist.
why is it always "rich white boys"?
i've seen plenty of other races working in those offices-- blacks, latinos, ect...
im white-- where are all of us "white boys" supposed to go sign up for our cushy office jobs where we just take everyones money and hold them down? please someone lety me know so i can get out of my truck for good!--lol"

I guess you are right in a way, 9Ball. I rarely got to see the office area of a dock, so I missed the fact that blacks, Asians, latinos, whatever, may have been working there. I was denied access to the office at most docks. I had no business being there, sure, but I guess the wearers of the neckties didn't want to have to deal with a lowly truck driver.

Where does the truck driver fall in the pecking order of species in these guys' eyes? I'd guess it's between orangutan and chimp.
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In every life a little rain must fall... Sort and segregate is part of the process, even the worst loads you can get done (if you have even a slight clue) done in less than three hours. At even $50 a load (most pay more) thats over $16.00 an hour. At $60 per load, thats $20.00 an hour and at $75 its $25 an hour. So instead of paying a driver and the driver accepting the FREE money at this rate, they just force the company to cough up $150.00 - $300.00 to unload a truck? I've seen plenty of drivers who were too uppity to break down one layer of product or even throw pallets for a slipsheet load. It's all just wasted money and laziness.
Federal Law FORBIDS a shipper/receiver from REQUIRING an operator load/unload his truck, FORBIDS a shipper/receiver from REQUIRING an operator PAY someone else to load/unload his truck.
Not too lazy, and I definately don't weigh "450 lbs" like you stated in an eariler post. Quite simply, it ISN'T MY JOB.
It is the responsibility of the shipper/receiver to load/unload their product. No where in my driver's handbook does it say that it is mine.
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I used to haul Michelin, Gerber, Nabisco, Clorox and American Home Foods when they were in business. I can do the lumper's job better than most lumpers. I've had 75 pallet loads before with small wood in there for some of the grocery warehouses added for fun. I all paid well to unload if you were willing, and with the HOS as they are now.. it makes more sense to be compensated for the time while it runs out than sitting watching TV while not making a cent,
The loads I carry, the shippers/receivers I go to never take more than about an hour to load/unload with only a few exceptions. If they do take over two hours, I get paid from the time I arrive to the time I leave, but that doesn't happen often.
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Trucking is a very diverse industry....a lot of companies take advantage of a rookies' desire to suceed in trucking by "forcing" him (her) to load (unload.)

They are compensated adequately, when contracting a load, and if they can make the driver unload for sixty or eighty dollars, they are able to pocket the difference.

Other companies employ "mobilized lumpers."

After achieving a skilled driving record, your worth to a company is as a driver and they will leave the loading or onloading to others.
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Tip what exactly is your point? Are you saying that it's all the "MAN'S" fault? Who cares what race the lumpers are, they all suck.

As far as unloading my truck I do it everyday, it's a part of my job and it's a pain in the butt. I'm mean it's not just the lifting but every time you gotta unstrap and then re-strap, it gets old.

When I was OTR I unloaded my truck when asked. I'll take the extra money plus I can do it faster. My whole goal was to get out off the dock as soon as possible and not worry about somebody waking you up to give your BOLs back or telling you to move. However I can see why people wouldn't want to do it. I don't think their lazy they just don't want to bother with something that the receiver should be doing anyway. It's a matter of principle to some people.
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Federal Law FORBIDS a shipper/receiver from REQUIRING an operator load/unload his truck, FORBIDS a shipper/receiver from REQUIRING an operator PAY someone else to load/unload his truck.
Not too lazy, and I definately don't weigh "450 lbs" like you stated in an eariler post. Quite simply, it ISN'T MY JOB.
It is the responsibility of the shipper/receiver to load/unload their product. No where in my driver's handbook does it say that it is mine.
Nice try, but there is a little thing called a contractual obligation. You will do what your employer and their contract states. Again, this is not about force, this is about practicality and money. Many people use the excuse that they are legally not required, this all goes out the window when and if your carrier and the shipper or receiver happen to make an agreement with each other for you to do it. You cannot be forced to do it without a contract.

BUT! The point is that the lumpers were screwing everyone and they are and have been, but that's because the drivers wont (as a majority) unload freight no matter how simple it is. If I was still in the van world, I'd still be unloading freight while everyone else sits there and complains and leave the place with more money. I talk to newbies all the time who's trainers had that attitude, when a new driver is struggling with their low pay, unloading is an easy way to generate a few hundred dollars that would have gone to someone else.. AND a valuable opportunity to learn HOW to unload freight. That is also a dieing art and another reason why people do not do it anymore.
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EasyRider, you should go back and read my posts

Easy, you should go back and read some of my posts. I think you're confusing me with someone else. I've posted pretty much exactly what you just did over my months here, meaning we see eye to eye on the issue.

You may have to dig a little, as it has been a while since I've posted lumper-related posts at this site.

It doesn't matter what we post. The fact is a lumper must pay a kick-back to somebody. That somebody is either a lumper rep or a big whig inside the dock. Anyone who thinks a lowly lumper takes 200 bones home with him after three hours of labor is somebody who doesn't know how the world works. Yeah, those guys are getting their pockets picked. But who cares? Use 'em to the hilt, ladies and gents.
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It means she's slow
It's a typical company truck
It's just all show and no go

I'm gettin' passed by Yella
And even Overnite
I'm gettin' passed by ever' body in sight
46 days on the road
And I'm not gettin' home tonight

No, my hometown's nowhere in sight
And if you think I'm pissed off
You're right
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I beg to differ on the certification thing....I got my card for electric jack and forklift, and even with that they won't let you use it.

I am no wimp, but I am not going to sort thru thousands of boxes of product to stack it as they want me to.
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I beg to differ on the certification thing....I got my card for electric jack and forklift, and even with that they won't let you use it.

I am no wimp, but I am not going to sort thru thousands of boxes of product to stack it as they want me to.
Not even if you get paid to do it? And people wonder why the illegals are here.. someone has to work.
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Good. Let them sort though THEIR product and stack THEIR product how they see fit ... after I've unloaded it ... and after I've left.
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