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    Is this shippers sign legal?

    This is a sign that is posted next to the docks of the Uniliver in Stockton CA.

    Can a shipper really refuse to rework an over weight load? Also the average load coming out of here is 43k in a dry van. Its easy to screw that up if you don't know how to load.


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    I don't know, but I do know that if they refuse to load it CORRECTLY, you can refuse to move it! It's YOUR butt on the line, and if you don't like how it works, simply refuse it. It cost me and my hubby some serious $$ several years ago, but we refused a load out of Dulles International because of this kind of BS.

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    They can post anything they want, after all, it is their dock. However, if they were to load you poorly, and then refuse to rework the load, you can raise hell with the dock folks (and with your own company) so you may never have to go back there again. I have never heard of a company not willing to rework a load; most places that tend to gross loads out will ask you to scale on the way in and then load you up, or ask how you want it loaded, ie nose heavy, even, etc.

    Usually, when a shipper posts soem stupid sign like this, it's because they want the drivers to stand on the dock and watch the freight being loaded, so that they don't have to take responsibility for any OS&D. Or at least that's what my experience has been.
    Last edited by wallbanger; 10.26.2007 at 09.11 PM. Reason:: more rambling on...

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    I had a company load me wrong once. Went to the scale and was way over on drives. They refused to reload. I told them they had 2 choices.
    1. Reload legal.
    2. Remove the load from the trailer.

    They had to call their boss, it was 3 am in morning.

    They reloaded it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckerjaw View Post
    This is a sign that is posted next to the docks of the Uniliver in Stockton CA.

    Can a shipper really refuse to rework an over weight load? Also the average load coming out of here is 43k in a dry van. Its easy to screw that up if you don't know how to load.

    Thats BS.... What if you have to go down the road a ways to scale. Guess your company the ticket, or if your an O/O they can reload, or let their junk stay on their yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadmedic View Post
    I had a company load me wrong once. Went to the scale and was way over on drives. They refused to reload. I told them they had 2 choices.
    1. Reload legal.
    2. Remove the load from the trailer.

    They had to call their boss, it was 3 am in morning.

    They reloaded it.
    Exactly. If YOU didn't load it legal, YOU are going to reload it whether you like it or not. Otherwise, take your load back and insert it in a Very Uncomfortable Place. We put up with enough nonsense from shippers, I'm not going to pay the state for their laziness and incompetence.

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    To answer a couple things brought up, There is no scale on the property not that I would trust it if there was. You are not allowed to be on the dock for 'insurance' reasons. The nearest CAT scale is a good 15 / 20 minutes away.

    Roadmedic: I have used those very same 2 rules several times. Every time it gets reworked.

    Bottom line, sign or no sign, rework it or get it out of my van. I almost hope I get to go there on a bad day just so I can pose those options to them. Todays loading when just fine. Thanks for the comments

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    Quick solution for me.....turn down that load. I hate inconsiderate businesses.

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    Simple solution. Go back to shipper...block a dock, when they try to get it towed, call the DOT. Even the tow driver has to answer for the "legal" status of the load if he snatches it.

    But I agree with the previous posters...they most likely will reload it, or take it off.

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    unilever in poontoon bch mo/il just north of st louis has a scale as u leave once ur satisfied and leave your sol.

    As far as refusing they can do what ever they want whether its legal or not. u also for any reason can refuse to pull the wagon or operate your truck.
    some nice options
    call the customer inform them of the situation do they wanna pay the scale tickets? likely a call from a customer or your carrier cs would get them to reload the freight and right.
    If youv left their location go bac drop and roll ...... drop your trailer and roll out lol.
    or wait for them to reopen and reload.
    haul the load and go around all scales.

    No matter what the scale ticket will be in your name most likely.

    I had to do the latter option cuz they closed once i got to a cat scale. was a long night.

    creates a wonderful question if you recieved a scale ticket( very large)
    left the company shortly after cuz they began deducting it from your paycheck who would you serve civil papers to the carrier the shipper the reciever or all. and for what ? interesting scenario

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