Input from swift L/O

Discussion in 'Swift' started by Broccelli, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. droflex

    droflex Light Load Member

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    All Cool bro. I'm not worried about you.

    Renting a truck is the same thing as renting a hole in an industrial park.

    Been there, done it.

    Not going home every night tho and less pay.

    Just buy a truck. Its yours.

    Only the IRS can take it from you.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    There are several Swift L/O's here that are very successful, even being solo.
    And many more that have gone under.

    Personally I think it has to do with the desire and ability to run your own business.
    Ability being the main factor.

    I won't do it, simply because I am too not interested in devoting the time that is required to run my own company - which is what I would have to do in that situation.
    When I get done driving for the day or the load, I just want to veg out for a few hours.
    20 years ago that might have been different.

    But if you have experience in running your own business and the will to invest the time to do it correctly, if you are intelligent and smart enough, you can make the lease deal work in your favor.
    There are too many here on this forum doing just that; too many to deny the fact.
     
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  4. Broccelli

    Broccelli Medium Load Member

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    I thought that was fairly common knowledge. I knew that, that is why I didn't ask. It seems as though no one has read the words that I seem to have to type every post: I don't need to be convinced not to lease.

    I'm just looking for info. And if for some crazy reason I do lease it will be later down the road I mostly was looking for the kind of info mystic gave me. I learned some useful things from his post, some numbers that I seemed to have been missing in order to try and make sense of the puzzle that is leasing.

    I'm starting to get a better picture and I could see how one could be successful. I am aware there are many dangers with a lease and I'm not saying that just because I could see how someone could be successful that I'm going to go down to the office and sign papers tonight I just want to understand it so I know all of the options available to me.
     
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  5. Broccelli

    Broccelli Medium Load Member

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    Buying a truck still remains my current plan if I decide to go O/O but I'm just trying to get an understanding of all the options available to me.
     
  6. blsqueak

    blsqueak Road Train Member

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    The best way to be successful, do not listen to the naysayers. I have been around the smoking table at different terminals and listened to the l/o, and heard stories about why they are failing, and it all comes down to them. I will admit that I am probably one of the laziest ones here on this forum, run my little 2800 miles per week, probably have a decline rate of close to 80%, but still all in all, I still manage to get a check deposited into my account most weeks for about $1300. I remember that when I first got this truck, I actually had a DM tell me that to make it, either team or train, since I could not get that 2800 miles per week. What was strange, he was the same DM that I had when a company driver and getting over 2800 miles per week.
     
  7. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Yep ... that's the terms of the lease, either party - it's a 2 way street - can terminate at anytime.

    In regard to our vlogging friend ... all we have is his side of it, presented through his filter. I take his info for the self serving BS it is.

    I've already completed one lease and am purchasing my current truck. I've consistently run 125,000 miles a year every year I've been here.

    My interpretation Brocolli's question is not whether he should lease or not. But more along the lines of why/how are Swift O/Os succeeding ... because despite the prognostications of you and others - whose only real exposure to leasing with Swift, is well none - there are many here who succeed with varying degrees.

    Keep in mind that Swift has over 4,000 O/Os. That's larger than most companies. Given the absolute lack of any real negative feedback on this site, compared to other companies, Swift must be doing something right with their leasing program.

    Brocolli, if you want to post up the numbers you are looking at, it might be easier to pin point what we are doing vise what you think it may be.
     
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  8. Broccelli

    Broccelli Medium Load Member

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    Questions continued:

    I might ask a few more questions periodically so just bear with me.

    7) how much does truck insurance typically cost?

    8) Does swift (or IEL) have a limit as to how many trucks you can lease?

    9) Does swift offer L/O's a benefits package i.e. healthcare, 401k (I doubt it but I'm asking anyways).
     
  9. droflex

    droflex Light Load Member

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    Alright. Your at the mercy of the dispatch.

    You have no control over that except the option to refuse load.

    You still make payment.

    They are in complete control at all times.

    You are still an employee.

    Expendable.

    It may work out.

    Go for it.

    What have got to loose?
     
  10. blsqueak

    blsqueak Road Train Member

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    Plant, you brought up Landstar. Last night I was with one of their drivers and he flat out told me that to be successful there, own your own trailer or pull over sized. The 100% FSC is not all that great like it sounds. The FSC is what the customer wants to pay. I have been that route before. What haul a load down to FL with a FSC from that one customer for about .45/mi that week, and to get out, hauled for a customer that was only paying .23/mi. the Landstart driver, he has a younger brother, works for Swift, been here 9 years, and now is in the process of picking up his 2nd new truck. There must be a reason that he does not want to follow in his brothers foot steps, even when his brother was going to help him purchase a truck. Different strokes, different folks.

    Going along with what Mystic said, there is a trainer, company, that is always at the PHX terminal. All that he does, bash L/O and even tells his students if they ever ask, bad deal. He says that he gets this from the ones that he talks to that are not doing that great. Last time that I was there, he was at a table with 4 of us, all successful, and he would not even listen to us. He would just harp on the bad.
     
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  11. MysticHZ

    MysticHZ Road Train Member

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    Answered above ...
     
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