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Is there a slow-down at Swift?

Is there a hiring slow-down at Swift? I applied in mid May, finally told that my application was good (I have a perfect driving record) and now, they are telling me that there are no "openings" for the Academy until late july 2009, anyone else having this issue with Swift?
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Is there a hiring slow-down at Swift? I applied in mid May, finally told that my application was good (I have a perfect driving record) and now, they are telling me that there are no "openings" for the Academy until late july 2009, anyone else having this issue with Swift?
It might have something to do with the area that you are in I know I talked to them on Wed of last week and on Friday they said that I shouldn't be a problem to get hired on.. then again the recruiter said I would hear something in 24-48hrs and I called them back in like 47hrs LOL... haven't found out when the schooling will be since still have to get my CDIP first but I am also in the NW area so that could have something to do with it...
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Yeah i did the same thing to went to school on my own to and got my cdl


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went to school on my own. already have my ccdl, just waiting for orientation. problem is my recruiter only gets 2 slots at a time. wish they would have hooked me up with a recruiter for the area I am going to have orientation in
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good luck guys it get better after the 5th day .not as much bs after that .the yard is a blast and the class is not bad just try to keep up and team up with roommates .its easyer to study in the room that way.swift is a great place to work they treat me very good and keep me running
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Sorry to be the one to potentially burst your bubble, however, before you get much further down the line, talk to driver services at Swift. Ask them what the process is once you have completed all the requirements to obtain your CDL. (once you have the actual license). Will you be going right out with a mentor? NO waiting period?? Ask about recent history. Then, continue the questions. Once the 6 weeks with the mentor is completed, will you be going right out in your own truck? DO NOT accept a patronizing "oh, you bet!" response. Ask them for recent history. Let them know you would like to speak with your transitional DM (driver manager). In Phoenix, it's Kevin Sanders. In fact, you might want to give him a call directly.

Why am I mentioning all this?? When I completed my mentor period this past Winter, I was as excited as you can imagine! I met with driver services, got my driver code and was sent over to Kevin's office. I was with him about five minutes when he told me I was # 87 on the list and "it would probably be months before I see a truck". I thought he was joking. He was not. I was completely caught off guard and furious with the entire process. That anger became deeper when I went back to see Kevin the next day and asked him how long this had been going on. He told me months. SO, with that I correctly concluded that Swift Academy, my recruiter and Driver Services all knew that before I even began my education that I wouldn't be driving a Swift truck for a long time.

I called my recruiter to express my anger with her, flat out accusing her of knowing all this and how she had lied to me letting me believe, all along, that I would be getting into a truck immediately following my mentor period. When I was going through the application process, I specifically asked her: "there won't be any laspe in time?". Her answer was "no". I told her that was important to me as I couldn't afford any break in income. She said: "no problem". HA! The next phone call I received was from the supervisor (Jason) of Driver Services who, very clearly suggested I not speak with my recruiter again. Hmmmm, I thought that was pretty interesting and I suggested to him that I will speak with whomever I wanted, particularly when it was involving my money and my time.

With what Sanders had said, doumenting this practice had been going on for months, those in recruiting certainly knew students were not getting into trucks.

But, the GOOD news is that if it happens to you, you won't be having to pay back your Swift Academy student loan right off!

Now, with that, Swift might try to tell you they guaranteed you nothing with regard to getting a job when you complete the course. But I challenge that as in MY contract with them regarding the student loan payback, it specifically states the payback shall be through payroll decuction which one might "decuct" from that, that payroll deduction would be through your payroll with Swift....with payroll meaning you have a job with them. Not Knight....not Central....not JB Hunt.

Also, please check out the other threads here. The most concerning about Swift's idle policy and what you will be reading from Swift drivers. Then, make the decision as to Swift caring about their drivers and taking good care of them. Add to that, there are a LOT of Swift drivers wating for a load, as I type.

With that, I truly do hope things work out for you. With any luck for you, perhaps things are different there today though. I might see that as unlikely as they have taken a huge amount of trucks of the road and word has it they did not get that California contract leaving hundreds of brand new day cabs sitting in the yard. Can't personally document that, but that's the word. They also cut back cpm (cents per mile), cut out certain perks, miles per week were being reduced and non-driver personnel were required to take unpaid leaves. Too many drivers, not enough freight.

ME?......just yesterday I passed my written passenger endorsement for my CDL and will be driving tour coaches this fall. Nice clean clothes, motel rooms with air conditioning and heat, decent meals and showers (all paid for....imagine that!) and FAR more money and hometime and a company who really does care!

With all the statements here, it would be quite easy for Swift mgmt to trace this back to me, thus my care and certainty in making those statements.

Bottom line, Swift Driving Academy, did what they advertised. They got me my CDL.
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Bronco are you driving for Swift now? How long have you been with them? How many miles are you getting?
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Had my CDL since July 2007

Got my CDL, July 2007 w/basic 3 endorsements. I asked to go to Swifts school since it's been 2 years since I drove (I felt it prudent to review all of my driving skills). Even though I did fantastic and passed my written and driving tests first time out (was told I was a natural & have great spacial relationships), it has been a while since I've been behind the wheel - Swift does not offer a refresher course, which is quite short-sighted on their part, I'm sure there are many other people in the same position?
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Sorry to be the one to potentially burst your bubble, however, before you get much further down the line, talk to driver services at Swift. Ask them what the process is once you have completed all the requirements to obtain your CDL. (once you have the actual license). Will you be going right out with a mentor? NO waiting period?? Ask about recent history. Then, continue the questions. Once the 6 weeks with the mentor is completed, will you be going right out in your own truck? DO NOT accept a patronizing "oh, you bet!" response. Ask them for recent history. Let them know you would like to speak with your transitional DM (driver manager). In Phoenix, it's Kevin Sanders. In fact, you might want to give him a call directly.

Why am I mentioning all this?? When I completed my mentor period this past Winter, I was as excited as you can imagine! I met with driver services, got my driver code and was sent over to Kevin's office. I was with him about five minutes when he told me I was # 87 on the list and "it would probably be months before I see a truck". I thought he was joking. He was not. I was completely caught off guard and furious with the entire process. That anger became deeper when I went back to see Kevin the next day and asked him how long this had been going on. He told me months. SO, with that I correctly concluded that Swift Academy, my recruiter and Driver Services all knew that before I even began my education that I wouldn't be driving a Swift truck for a long time.

I called my recruiter to express my anger with her, flat out accusing her of knowing all this and how she had lied to me letting me believe, all along, that I would be getting into a truck immediately following my mentor period. When I was going through the application process, I specifically asked her: "there won't be any laspe in time?". Her answer was "no". I told her that was important to me as I couldn't afford any break in income. She said: "no problem". HA! The next phone call I received was from the supervisor (Jason) of Driver Services who, very clearly suggested I not speak with my recruiter again. Hmmmm, I thought that was pretty interesting and I suggested to him that I will speak with whomever I wanted, particularly when it was involving my money and my time.

With what Sanders had said, doumenting this practice had been going on for months, those in recruiting certainly knew students were not getting into trucks.

But, the GOOD news is that if it happens to you, you won't be having to pay back your Swift Academy student loan right off!

Now, with that, Swift might try to tell you they guaranteed you nothing with regard to getting a job when you complete the course. But I challenge that as in MY contract with them regarding the student loan payback, it specifically states the payback shall be through payroll decuction which one might "decuct" from that, that payroll deduction would be through your payroll with Swift....with payroll meaning you have a job with them. Not Knight....not Central....not JB Hunt.

Also, please check out the other threads here. The most concerning about Swift's idle policy and what you will be reading from Swift drivers. Then, make the decision as to Swift caring about their drivers and taking good care of them. Add to that, there are a LOT of Swift drivers wating for a load, as I type.

With that, I truly do hope things work out for you. With any luck for you, perhaps things are different there today though. I might see that as unlikely as they have taken a huge amount of trucks of the road and word has it they did not get that California contract leaving hundreds of brand new day cabs sitting in the yard. Can't personally document that, but that's the word. They also cut back cpm (cents per mile), cut out certain perks, miles per week were being reduced and non-driver personnel were required to take unpaid leaves. Too many drivers, not enough freight.

ME?......just yesterday I passed my written passenger endorsement for my CDL and will be driving tour coaches this fall. Nice clean clothes, motel rooms with air conditioning and heat, decent meals and showers (all paid for....imagine that!) and FAR more money and hometime and a company who really does care!

With all the statements here, it would be quite easy for Swift mgmt to trace this back to me, thus my care and certainty in making those statements.

Bottom line, Swift Driving Academy, did what they advertised. They got me my CDL.


Okay, first off Windjammer2 I'm happy you're finally happy.

Secondly, the waiting list is nothing like it was last winter.

Thirdly, my husband was issued his truck the day after coming off his mentor's truck.

Fourthly, he was assigned his mentor the last day of orientation and went out the next day.

He attended a class that ended in mid Jan.

I attended class that early April and have been on the truck since one week later as I waited for my husband to get back to Phx.

Now, Kevin Sanders is no longer the transitional DM.

We run as a team and depending upon how much time we wish off we run 4-6 thousand miles a week.

There is a wide variety of experiences with Swift obviously. I do not fault anyone for telling their version and what their experience is. However just as mine is not the only one........neither is Windjammer2's.

Please do ask your questions of Swift and I strongly suggest you don't ask them of the recruiters.

I asked them of other drivers here on the forum and of a terminal manager at another terminal. The only thing I can say that I was told incorrectly was that it would be easy to get home time. LOL Okay I was silly to believe that one. You will get your home time at home IF there is a load that gets you back home at that time. They want to get you home, they try to get you home......but Swift is like every trucking co..........they're in business to move freight.

Swift is cutting corners and cutting them hard just as many businesses do. I hate the idle policy, I understand it but I hate it. I want a bigger cab, that's not happening. LOL They’ve cut back the size of classes due to the reduction in driver turnover. That means fewer drivers are leaving Swift. Fewer drivers are leaving most companies. Freight shortages and the change in driver turnover is industry wide. And yes, all non driving personnel took furloughs including Administration and drivers took a penny a mile cut. However, other companies have had lay offs. I know drivers at Stevens who told me last week they've been on furlough for 2 months.

Is Swift perfect? No. I haven't found anyone who thinks their company is. Swift is a training company. This means they school, train and hire people with no experience. The pay is less because of no experience. The conditions a bit less. But again.......they hire you with no experience and give you the opportunity to get that experience to be a driver.

Driving isn't for everyone. If you can deal with the time away from home, not showering in your own shower, public restrooms, a bunk instead of a perfect sleeper, variance in miles, hot freight, low freight, just in time loads, slow customers, rude customers, and paying your dues to get experience then trucking is for you. If you can't.......then it's not.

I'm a driver, I move freight and I move it for Swift Transportation.

Talk to Otherhalf and he'll give you an honest view of the goods and bads of Swift. I'll try to but hey...........I'm a newbie too
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Okay, first off Windjammer2 I'm happy you're finally happy.

Secondly, the waiting list is nothing like it was last winter.

Thirdly, my husband was issued his truck the day after coming off his mentor's truck.

Fourthly, he was assigned his mentor the last day of orientation and went out the next day.

He attended a class that ended in mid Jan.

I attended class that early April and have been on the truck since one week later as I waited for my husband to get back to Phx.

Now, Kevin Sanders is no longer the transitional DM.

We run as a team and depending upon how much time we wish off we run 4-6 thousand miles a week.

There is a wide variety of experiences with Swift obviously. I do not fault anyone for telling their version and what their experience is. However just as mine is not the only one........neither is Windjammer2's.

Please do ask your questions of Swift and I strongly suggest you don't ask them of the recruiters.

I asked them of other drivers here on the forum and of a terminal manager at another terminal. The only thing I can say that I was told incorrectly was that it would be easy to get home time. LOL Okay I was silly to believe that one. You will get your home time at home IF there is a load that gets you back home at that time. They want to get you home, they try to get you home......but Swift is like every trucking co..........they're in business to move freight.

Swift is cutting corners and cutting them hard just as many businesses do. I hate the idle policy, I understand it but I hate it. I want a bigger cab, that's not happening. LOL They’ve cut back the size of classes due to the reduction in driver turnover. That means fewer drivers are leaving Swift. Fewer drivers are leaving most companies. Freight shortages and the change in driver turnover is industry wide. And yes, all non driving personnel took furloughs including Administration and drivers took a penny a mile cut. However, other companies have had lay offs. I know drivers at Stevens who told me last week they've been on furlough for 2 months.

Is Swift perfect? No. I haven't found anyone who thinks their company is. Swift is a training company. This means they school, train and hire people with no experience. The pay is less because of no experience. The conditions a bit less. But again.......they hire you with no experience and give you the opportunity to get that experience to be a driver.

Driving isn't for everyone. If you can deal with the time away from home, not showering in your own shower, public restrooms, a bunk instead of a perfect sleeper, variance in miles, hot freight, low freight, just in time loads, slow customers, rude customers, and paying your dues to get experience then trucking is for you. If you can't.......then it's not.

I'm a driver, I move freight and I move it for Swift Transportation.

Talk to Otherhalf and he'll give you an honest view of the goods and bads of Swift. I'll try to but hey...........I'm a newbie too
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Thanks Nana - I appreciate your take however it changes nothing from my end. As I mentioned, they could firgure out who I am as I have discussed all of this with Richard Stocking. Facts are facts. Lies are lies.
Cutting back (re idling is one thing. Cutting it back to the point of abuse is something different.
Hope things continue to go well for you and your husband.
Perhaps I'll pass you in the coach someday or see you from inside my motel room as you sweat and are unable to sleep.
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Thanks Nana - I appreciate your take however it changes nothing from my end. As I mentioned, they could firgure out who I am as I have discussed all of this with Richard Stocking. Facts are facts. Lies are lies.
Cutting back (re idling is one thing. Cutting it back to the point of abuse is something different.
Hope things continue to go well for you and your husband.
Perhaps I'll pass you in the coach someday or see you from inside my motel room as you sweat and are unable to sleep.
End of discussion

ROFL

Why thank you Windjammer2 for that lovely ending to your post. My post wasn't intended to change anything from your end. Your experiences and your views are yours and you're certainly entitled to them. My post was to show that there are many different experiences. I do hope that I meet you someday, although instead of wishing you ill as you have me.......I hope to buy you a cup of coffee or a diet pepsi. As for my sweating and being unable to sleep: I sleep just fine.....either we're rolling and the ac is running or else I buy idle aire. Take care and be safe out there.
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