Super Singles on an end dump

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  1. Loudpipes66

    Loudpipes66 Bobtail Member

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    I have been contemplating changing my truck and trailer over to Goodyear G392 and G394 singles. About 98% of my run is on pavement the last portion is a recycling facility with hard packed dirt, gravel, and concrete roads. About 30 miles of the run is spent on side roads and the rest is Interstate. I have NO experience using singles.

    My questions are:
    -How well do they actually handle in snow and slop
    -Will I really see a 1200lb weight savings converting from 11r 24.5 duals to singles on tractor and trailer
    -Do they hold the weight as well as 16 ply duals
    -Any experience good or bad with Goodyear duraseal


    I plan on keeping my duals around if I put singles on and don't care for them. I have looked for guys on the road to talk to about these but I see very few dumps and hoppers running singles. Thanks for any help in advance.
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    They will do fine but think off a in-cab tire pressure monetoring system.
    That way you will never get into trouble.
     
  4. Loudpipes66

    Loudpipes66 Bobtail Member

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    That is on my to do list. I heard Kevin Rutherford started to recommend one that I was going to look into.
     
  5. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    I have one and it is worth it BUT it is a longterm investment.
    Don't buy the cheapest one,get the one which works good.
    Should have a screen in the cab where you can see all tires.
     
  6. Jokingypsy

    Jokingypsy Medium Load Member

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    I drove an end dump with super singles, they are fine 90 percent of the time. They re worthless in snow, off road, on wrt grass etc. if the little bit of offroad you have to do is somewhere that they wont mind pulling you out is one thing, I personally wouldnt recommend it though if you have to pay for winch outs.

    Adam
     
  7. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Depends on tread design, but most have low RR tight-packed design that isn't the best for sloppy conditions. Never had a problem in rain, slushy snow, or hard-packed ice with the Xone energy D -- but they were not very good in thick snow or mud.

    If converting from 16 steel wheels yes. If converting from 16 aluminum wheels it'll be more like 750-800lbs.

    No. 1 SS is going to be rated for ~10,000lb 2 duals are going to be rated for ~11,000-12,000
     
  8. precisionpower

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    Better hope you never have one blow when the box is up in the air.
     
    x#1 Thanks this.
  9. Flatbedder73

    Flatbedder73 Medium Load Member

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    Hate em....I drive a lit of northeast, better off using skis for traction in the winter! I am back to duals now..... ;)
     
  10. jeffo51

    jeffo51 Bobtail Member

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    They are horrible for any truck. The company I work for bought four trucks with super singles. Within one year, we replaced them with dials. Poor traction and cost of replacement due to flat or blow out we're the primary reasons. Also, as a driver when you get a flat or blow out, you better pull over immediately because you will destroy that expensive rim too.
     
  11. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    Would not recommend it at all.
    End dump? Frequents landfills. All the landfills I've been to accommodate contractor trucks. A lot of roofing goes on, between the off season. A lot of roof equates to a lot of nails. A lot of nails even in the best of landfill pits equates to a lot of nail-pick-ups in the tires. It happens. I'm pulling 2-3 out at a time. Not a lot you can do. This is on a dully setup, and if it were a super single it would pierce and destroy those SOB's.

    Bad enough we go through about a set every 2-4 months on the open tops running the WM landfills in NE Ohio as it is. Can't imagine if it were running super singles, christ...It would be every trip into the landfill with the thin ### rubber they run on those SS's. Lucky enough not to pickup a nail or something worse on the sidewall in our daily travels on a dual setup, spin the drives on soft ground? I'm laughing already thinking of how my boss would fire me for blowing out 4 supers all at once. And I would, too!
     
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