New to dump trailers and need some help.

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  1. parsonsba

    parsonsba Bobtail Member

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    I am new to all things not dry vans and am looking for some end dump trailer info. My company is looking to purchase an end dump and I am in charge of the search for it, as I will be the one to drive it. I have NO CLUE when it comes to specifics. I have many questions and my first is, what are drop stand dollies? If anyone could help, it would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks
    Brett
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    I beleive those a r e just legs that drop down. drove an end dump like that at one time.

    the legs and stands have holes. a pin goes through the hole and keeps the stands in the legs. pull the pin. stands drop. insert pin.

    I could be wrong though and it might be another name. been a long time since I drove that
     
  4. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Yeah that's your "landing gear". Instead of cranking down, you pull a cotter pin type thingy and the legs drop. This is for when the trailer is EMPTY, not loaded. There are various models for an end dump. Most are short because dirt is heavy as is gravel. You don't need 53' of trailer. Some are "low sides" some "high sides". Some have barn doors some have a gate. Just what type of payloads you haul ?
     
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    Hi snowwy, I think you are right. Years ago, tankers had those, we called them "peg legs", and save a little weight. They aren't meant for dropping a trailer with a load, they'll fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
    To parsonsba, I always thought "end dump" trailers were trailers that did not raise up, but pushed the material out the back, but apparently, it refers to all dump trailers. There are basically 2 kinds. Frame and frameless. Frame, as the name implies, has a frame, like a truck, and the ram lifts just the body to dump. The frameless the ram lifts the entire trailer, dumping the load. Each has advantages and disadvantages. Frame are much stronger and much more stable, but weigh a lot more.( less payload) Frameless, weigh less (more payload) but are incredibly unstable when dumping, and anytime I saw a dump trailer tipped over, it was a frameless. Hope this helps.
     
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    A drop stand dolly(to me) is a portable landing gear leg on wheels. You put it under the fifth wheel plate on a loaded trailer that's dropped and crank it up snug ... Helps support the landing gear on the trailer .......

    You need to say what your hauling and where...... Very different trailers depending on what and where....
     
  7. Kw900a

    Kw900a Light Load Member

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    Depends on freight dumping area. Frameless usually breaks away vs framed will take truck and trailer over. We use 40x102 by 77 inch sides haul ag products scrap and mulch. High sided for high density stuff. You put heavy stuff in like sand or lime you have alotta space left. We just purchased a mac half round a w900 pulls that he can legally get 23.5 tons on im maxed out at 22.5 with a kruz and w900. If ypur not hauling. Barn door yes ours is set up u put pin in one side and pull handle to unlatch one side then it swings open. If your looking weight wise frameless will b lighter than framed. I haul just about anything with ours ag products coal lime stone mulch n even cow hides yep payd good. You can stay pretty busy with one.
     
  8. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    [QUOTE="semi" retired;4230507]Hi snowwy, I think you are right. Years ago, tankers had those, we called them "peg legs", and save a little weight. They aren't meant for dropping a trailer with a load, they'll fold faster than Superman on laundry day.
    To parsonsba, I always thought "end dump" trailers were trailers that did not raise up, but pushed the material out the back, but apparently, it refers to all dump trailers. There are basically 2 kinds. Frame and frameless. Frame, as the name implies, has a frame, like a truck, and the ram lifts just the body to dump. The frameless the ram lifts the entire trailer, dumping the load. Each has advantages and disadvantages. Frame are much stronger and much more stable, but weigh a lot more.( less payload) Frameless, weigh less (more payload) but are incredibly unstable when dumping, and anytime I saw a dump trailer tipped over, it was a frameless. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

    End dumps raise up to dump out of the end. Walking floors have a belt that pushes the load out the rear.
    Then there are side dumps which tip the load out of the side, and belly dumps which drop the load out the bottom.
    End dumps have frames, frameless, and 1/4 frames. If you want to pave, you'll need a frame or a 1/4 frame. If all you are doing is stockpiling, any will work. Frames are most stable, but weigh the most and if you tip 'em over, they'll take the truck with 'em. Frameless are the least stable, since they are just balancing on the rear axle while dumping...but they are also the lightest. 1/4 frames are a hybrid...more stable than a frameless, lighter than a frame.
     
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