How viable is is this? Bulk hauling produce as O/O or IC

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  1. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    Looking at maybe getting a truck in a few years but wondering how easy/difficult it is to get work going to grain elevators or farms hauling grains, & fruits/veggies(i.e apples, onions, corn, etc) do farms do this with their own trucks or are they open to using IC carriers or O/O's? I ask because there are places around me that have big plants like Jiffy(corn bread, cookie mix, etc) and grain elevators, corn fields, etc I think Jiffy has their own trucks though, but there is a Cargill in the state too and I know they are pretty big but not sure if they take O/O's or independent carriers either.

    Just wondering if I got a truck and hopper bottom trailer if there would be enough work or is it better to do dry van/reefer or flatbed?
     
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  3. Pete jockey

    Pete jockey Medium Load Member

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    Hard to say what's going to be happening in a few years
     
  4. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    LOL of course, but I just meant in general what is it like and is it common for farmers, grain elevators, etc to work with O/O's or do they only use their own trucks. Also places like Jiffy, Cargill, etc do they allow private carriers to haul their bulk items or do they just use their own fleets.
     
  5. wore out

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    You usually run through a broker instead of for Cargill direct. If they buy corn direct from a farmer the farmer usually hauls it in right out of the field. If it comes out of bins on the farm it has usually been. Sold to a grain buyer such as Schoular company and they sell it to Cargill and broker out the hauling at a very low rate. Bare in mind this is just an example I'm sure there are exceptions. I do know every time I pull anything into feed mills it's a broker deal. For the elevators it could go either way.
     
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  6. UKJ

    UKJ Heavy Load Member

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    Thanks, So is it tough to make money hauling fresh produce like Grains, Apples, Onions, etc as an O/O? I was looking at the USDA Truck Rates but not sure how accurate it is, some people are saying while it updates a new paper every Wednesday the USDA only adjust rates quarterly.
     
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    Well I can't say about produce other than trucking is tough all over. We run all row crop commodities, or grain it's commonly called. Also feed ingredients such as rice bran, salt, phosphate, chicken by products things like that. It's takes all of it to keep the wagon loaded. There is a lot of sitting in long lines all day and trucking all night. It's rougher right now than I have ever seen it but it's seems to be getting better. It's not all bad though
     
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  8. damil

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    I pull a hopper bottom you can expect anywhere from 1.70 a mile to 2.20 a mile. more of a 1.85 average. Yes I know there are some who make more and a lot who make less. They do not call them welfare wagons as a total joke. You will have to work with a lot of different brokers to stay busy. There are some people who like to make multiple short runs from elevator to feedlot/mill and be home every night these runs are usually paid at the lower end of the scale but you do not drive alot of miles and are home every night. you can take the time to make turns with multiple brokers and run otr more money less time home. or you can lease on to a company who will find the loads and dispatch you and take care of most of your paper work for you. If you go this route INVESTIGATE any company you are thinking about leasing on to. There are a lot of company's who will not think twice about screwing you out of your money
     
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  9. Powder Joints

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    First talk to the elevator shipping agent, walk in and ask for the business. Same deal go talk to the farmers, etc... In a lot of cases especially bulk these load are available for direct bid.

    To give you and idea of priving I haul cement from Mojave. Tehacahpi area to Colton CA, This pays according to our company contract 15.00 per ton, I haul 27.5 tons,this pays the truck 412.00, As a Driver I make 28% $ 115.00.

    I then pull a load from Fontana back to Bakersfield @ 22.50 per ton, 27.5 tons, pays truck $618., And as a driver I get 28% $ 173.40, My day totals is $ 288.04.

    Food Grade pays more. Go to work for a company that pays percentage if nothing else, then bid on loads direct, you dont need a broker.
     
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