That could be the case too, like I said, Im not totally sure about the entire process.

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These pro-union trucking guys should ask ALvan Motor Freight drivers what their union is doing or did do for them. The company filed bankruptcy on Fri Jun 27. The majority of their drivers did not even know this until Mon Jun 30, The drivers that did found this out through the grapevine.

Every union that I have ever been in(although I have been in none since I started driving), the only reason that they existed was to keep the company from paying us minimum wage and nothing else. I would say that at least 95% of greivances usually wind up taking the company side. And if you have to take it to arbitration, have fun--the side who looses usually pays the arbitrator and those guys are expensive and most of the time neither side is willing to risk the loss of money.

Also, obviously the unions, with all their big lobyists and govt kickbacks and such havent been able to keep the Mexican trucks out of here, they have not been able to revamp our HOS in a way that would actually work, and they have not been able to really do anything--at least not that I can see. In fact, quite the opposite--the reasons that this industry has a lot of the troubles that it does is directly because of unions and what they think is "good" for the industry.

BTW, if you think OOIDA or ATA or any of the other associations that are supposed to be working for us, are coming to the aid of this industry anytime soon, keep on telling yourself that..They all talk a good game, but when it comes right down to it, there is little to next to no action. Until the drivers them selves decide that they have had enough, nothing will happen or change. To many of the drivers in this industry are still trying to "live" in their trucks and be a "slave" to big companies, and until that attitude dissappears, the problems will still be here and become worse.

HAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

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[quote=Timtruck;493370]These pro-union trucking guys should ask ALvan Motor Freight drivers what their union is doing or did do for them. quote]


"their" union is helping them by giving them referals and leads into another higher paying job in the industry..

the union did not cause alvans woes - their top heavy management and putting all their eggs in one basket (niche carrier) did.

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[quote=latanea;495625]You ought to tell them that, since their drivers are saying that their union is not doing anything for them, nor is it helping them find any high paying jobs.
Also, no kidding--I know that their management caused this--actually it was not management, it was high cost of fuel that killed them--same as it will kill anybody else who has not buffered themselves against this and taken pre-cautions to not go under.
Our company has been moving all their freight and I have heard first hand, so I know exactly what happened and what is happening.

It is not that the Union is not helping - it is that a lot of their drivers (and every companies drivers) live paycheck to paycheck and can not aford a break while they find a new job...


placement will come - but it will take awhile.

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23 Years old with an attitude you probably got what you deserved at Safeway.



The Mexican non union had to unload with a pallet jack , he won't have a back for long then he'll be fired for no reason from his 8 dollar an hour job.


Work like a dog for about 30 years and you might get it.

I like the idea that our tax dollars will be paying for his future medical woes...


that combined with the false equation that "killing ones self and being a MAN is the way to live..." AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

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Is that a fact? I dont even do that, and I am non-union. So once again-the union pretty much does nothing. If you have to live paycheck to paycheck--then what kind of benefits is the union gonna get me that I cant get myself??? That's what I thought-NONE!

no tim - you are not hearing me

talk to most people in america and you will see that they are 1 paycheck away from ruin.

has nothing to do with union work or not - or truck driving for that matter...

most of my neighbors are 1 paycheck away from losing it all... and I am the only trucker on the street.



as for benefits - I assure you that even a lesser union trucking job has much better benefits than the best non union trucking job.

zero out of paycheck medical / dental
zero out of paycheck retirement
zero out of paycheck insurance
zero out of paycheck pesonal days / vacation

not to mention a much higher payscale and the fact that we get paid "all time involved" in addition to our mileage pay (which is unmatched in the industry at over 57 cpm)...


as for your comment "once again the union does nothing" -

where is this coming from?

that is the same attitude Katrina victoms had when the government did not sweep in instantly and build all of them new 500K homes and buy them new lincolns to drive..

ALVAN went under.. simple as that - and it takes time to be absorbed - especially in this economy.

(period)

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