If anyone is interested do a google search for "nesara" . Its a
Grass roots movement looking to change the way we live.
could the income tax really be illegal?

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Menace Of The Midwest

14% flat tax rate? good luck with that.

$300,000 house is now $342,000

mortgage interest no longer deductible?

Great plan

Yes, give me my 1946 Ford Pickup and I don't need all this new fangled junk.
As for Unions:
You are right, but then you have closed your mind to options. If Union's are to work for the working class in this country, the working class has to do more than just join. They have to participate and they have to demand action. That means, within union's there must be organization.

The simple fact of life is, almost everyone is struggling for a living and practically no one is getting anywhere because they do not participate.

If you are not engaged, you are disengaged and if you are disengaged, what do you expect?

I could show drivers how to do something so simple to produce six and seven figure incomes, but most will never take the necessary step to find out. But, even if some did, they would have to tell others to contact me. The time it would take is not more than to drink a cup of coffee.

Simple, Straight forward and well, who do you trust? Not Union's! That you already stated. Trust-what is it? How do you trust someone without first trusting them. Just something to think about . . . but action speaks louder than words. If just 10 Ambitious Drivers would contact me they could see something they never thought possible. But, like union's, some will join, most will just complain about how bad things are and nothing ever changes.

Wonder why Union's have not worked? Now you know! It is You, the member in the shadows that may show when you feel the need and that is not enough.

To be an American/ To live your dreams, you must be more than patriotic and wave the flag; sometimes you have to get down in the mud and the blood.

I miss the road, but I don't miss the BS. In any case, I will spend part of my Christmas at a truck stop wishing those who are not home a Merry Christmas. That goes for all of you who do so much for an unappreciative system.

For ten thousand years our world history tells the story of the Sun dieing at the Winter Solstice and being reborn again or resurrected after three days.

For those of us in the Northern Hemisphere, our sun's head now lies on the crux of the Southern Cross. The Sun died on the 22nd of December. It will lie still for thee days. 2007 is now devoid of tree life, gardens are empty and many are covered with snow, the flowers are all gone. Our days are cold and sometimes our nights are miserable. But on December 25th the Sun will once again be resurrected as it starts its accent into the heavens bringing new hope for a Grand New Year. Spring is just around the corner.

Life could not exist without our Sun in the Heavens. It is warmth, it is climate change, it means new life each spring. It gives us food and water.

I hope all of your dreams come true in 2008, but you should all know that dreams are not usually attributed to luck; they are thought about, worked on and produced through our own actions.

Join a union, participate and demand action. It means "Organization," and that means power.

It still amazes me that guys are willing to do the same job as mine - and do it for 20 cents less a mile (and pay for all of their insurance and retirement) JUST on principle... Just because they have been told how evil unions are...

I also find it amusing that guys yell and shout that the end is near for unions yet unions companies are still strong 70 to 100 years old and the majority of others are less than 20 years old and scraping by on a margain based un undercutting freight rates and abusing employee wages and benny's.

last night I passed a guy who had a huge "SAY NO TO CHEAP FREIGHT" sign on the right trailer door - and on the left door "LEASE ON TO US - WE pay .98 CPM loaded and empty"

HAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAH


principle!!!

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Personally I think a lot of truckers are judging how unions operate by the awful grocery warehouses they have had to visit.
Well, those awful grocery warehouses arent any better when you are a union driver, but I get paid for all my time waiting there.

Being a union truck driver does not mean you have to have a labotomy and become like the grocery warehouse union workers!

Like latanea says, we all do the same job, why not go where the pay and benefits are better, as well as job protection.
There are so many threads about unfair dismissal, and what do I do in this or that situation? Well, as a union worker, your first recourse is to the union if anything should happen like that (which is unlikely because the company knows what the drivers rights are and they are unlikely to want the union to step in if they create a problem for one of their employees).

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Unions- Are the Union Companies doing well? Profits rising?

I know Walmart and Southwest Airlines, oh heck, I think most non union companies are doing well, but I always here about Union outfits closing shops and/or moving out of the Country.

There are alot of companies moving out of the country, And the workers are just trying to hang on.

The union's have been dumped on since Bobby Kennedy took down Jimmy Hoffa. When you get too powerful in this country, you draw attention.

After Jimmy's demise, the union's never recovered and the good life started it's descent into slave labor.

Yes, the transportation industry was deregulated because people were doing too well. However, the government forget that they deregulated the industry and still try to regulate it for so called Highway Safety. Fact is, when most O/O can't afford safety all they do is fine those who already struggle to get buy. There only purpose today is revenue and not safety.

Monopolization use to be illegal. Since 1980 it has been routine business along with forced mergers and force bankruptcies by the power companies.

Union's could be good, but the people have to get behind them, force them to do what needs to be done and back the unions once they get what they all want. Unfortunately, it will never happen because people will never organize and even if they do, they won't stand behind the unions. Most won't have time because they just don't want to participate in union meetings.

Good reply, but that also depends on who is running the Union shop. Good management takes care of business. Sometimes that just is not the case.

In these instances, the union members should be there to force there unions to take care of members.

Since there are not enough union jobs available, most have to continue to suffer without any protection.

The only way to salvation is Organization. I preach it all the time, but I don't think it will ever come to pass.

Finally,
Someone who's articulate in the expression of what a union is about and some idea of what's desired by the membership so it works for the members. The working class needs organization so our skills can't be purchased cheaply. Immigrants coming into the country, do our jobs for less. That's some of what's happening, especially in the Transportation Industry. Trucking companies want to pay little to nothing. I live in the Kansas City, Kansas kansas city, missouri area. We have some companies in the area paying 12.00 an hour to drive tractor and 53' foot trailers. I think it's isulting. There's hispanics and mexican performing the jobs. Our unions need to become strong again and that takes strong membership. Companies have us "labor" divided and they're kicking our butts.