You are a poor misguided soul

Well, you summed up what makes union jobs better, at least better than most in this industry... "take care of your work force". Would that be hmmm... Covenant? Swift? England? ....lol.... my god man you could list nearly every company known and the fact is, they DON'T take care of their workforce! Which is WHY the unions are strong and exist. If companies in any industry took care of their workers, there wouldn't be unions!

How can you seriously argue being out 3,4 and 6 weeks at a time for say .34 a mile, and not even actual miles driven, working 12 hour days 7 days a week and sleeping in the truck with your company docking you pay for keeping warm (idling)... v. a union job? LMAO!!!

There's guys who want and are willing to work for companies like Covenant, England, etc... fine. There's people who are happy working for Walmart and McDonald's too making $8.00. Fine. But please don't try and convince anyone it's better than working for ... ####, anything that pays more than the $300 to $400 a week you might make.

Yep, he's back...

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common management theory states that you kep the good workers in their jobs - you promote the ones that are ineffective - that way your general productivity stays the same...


take a shop with 60 screw offs and 5 good guys...


you would NEVER promote the 5 guys carrying the lions share of work.

That is not the management theory used in any business I worked in. In the accounting business, the way to move up the ladder was hard work. The slackers usually were found out on the pavement. We were a for profit company, the slackers were not needed or kept around.

I don't have a problem with you not liking Unions, I have a problem with your reasons. There have been a few who responded to your post, yet you do not have a rebuttal. Why is that? Back up what you say.

Your comments seem to be directed at the poster who has a friend who drives for Yellow. Am I correct? We will say yes for the sake of argument.

You say that you want to work for companies that take care of their people and pay an honest days for an honest days work. That is exactly what the rest of us want!

Except for being home every night, that driver who works for Yellow does just the same as any other driver. He gets in the truck and goes to work. His 500 miles are no different than any other drivers 500 miles. It seems to me he is doing an honest days work. Does it not seem that way to you?

An honest days pay is very subjective.

This might sound like a harsh thing to say but "YOU ARE PAID EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE WORTH". You might have to sit down and think about that one. Hopefully, you will understand it.

I think the Yellow driver is paid a honest days wage for an honest day worked.

Some, like you, will say he is overpaid. Have you ever stepped back and thought maybe, just maybe, he is paid properly. And maybe, just maybe, the OTR companies short change their drivers and provide substandard benefits.

Think about it. For every OTR driver that leaves, there are many more just waiting in line to take their place. Why would a company ever think of providing better benefits when they know there are more drivers right around the corner looking to get hired? Guess what? They are not. Why should they?

I have not been on this site to long. However, I have not seen too many posts from unhappy Union drivers but I have seen quite a few unhappy non-Union drivers. Maybe you can explain that to the rest of us?

By the way, you never did say who you work for. They are probably a very good company. Can you share them with us?

Drive safe

I am willing to bet all i have....

If these O.T.R. ''HATERS OF UNIONS'' were to get a call today and offered this....

20.00/hr
time and a half after 8
home everyday
m-f
great health care
great pension
401k
paid vactions

...and many other great benifit's to come work for the ''union'' they would be fighting to be the 1st one to the ''union'' door...

They will never admit it,but i have seen this play out for 20 years know...

It's a no brainer and the hate for the ''union'' is 90% JEALOUSY AND ENVY.

BUT AGAIN,IT WILL NEVER BE ADMITTED..

hmmm.

I have seen the same thing over and over...

the fed ex guys are the best ones... they come thru orientation talking a bunch of ####..

(amazing considering that no one held a gun to their heads)

and then after a month or two they have nothing bad to say about Unions...

that is a ''fact''

I was laid off December 18, 2008 (company based in Duluth, MN), teamsters too. I was sent off with about 19 other drivers. Of course, if we're called back, it'll be in order of seniority (the same way we were laid off.) I know for a fact that many of us guys that got the ax would have been spared if the criteria for the layoff would have been based on performance. The company can't do it that way though.

I agree with you.But the O.T.R. division is a cess pool of ''desperate people''.Thats the point here.

Unions are really the way to go,comparing it with the sleze ball outfits they call ''truck load''..

Its still far much better to be in a union then in the ''truckload'' common carriers..