Yup! A lazy arse can keep a job forever in a Union. All i could do when i was a foreman and had lazy laborers is send them back to the hall and ask for another. Then the BA gets testy cuz you sent someone back no- matter they were lazy stand around do nothings!

That sounds like a lazy O.T.R. DRIVER that can't even bend over anymore to tie his shoes...

O.T.R. drivers are the laziest people i have ever encountered in my life...

Please. The union driver don't put up with half the #### we have to put up with. Irregular hours, waiting in line at the docks, (they don't care if we only have 2 pallets to deliver we have to wait in line, unlike the LTL carriers) Or trying to find a place to park in Springfield Massachusetts at 1:30 in the morning. I don't consider myself lazy. I considered a uion job at one point, I was offered a job at ABF, and I turned it down. I like what I'm doing for now, and I really don't want to be home that much. My wife and I get along much better when I'm 500 miles away, plus, I like the feeling of not knowing where I'm going to be next week.

wow......

We don't put up with that #### because we're smarter than that and have more self respect . I'm laid off from ABF (best co I've ever worked for) and I'd rather get by on unemployment than spend my life living in a truck not getting paid for my time. I'm not lazy either- just smarter! BTW my local union has found me work on a movie paying $25 hr-time an a 1/2 after 8 double time after 12- LOVE being a teamster!!

Hey guys, just a question for you non-union guys. I don't understand about the retirement thing? Why would you want to work for a company with only a 401K that is subject to the stock market ups and downs verses a pension that you know is guarrented? Let's say you decide to retire in 3 months, you put in your paperwork and within 15 days of retirement the market crashes and wipes out your 401K from $400,000 down to say $135,000. Wouldn't it be better to have a pension that you know is vested and guarrented instead of 2 years worth of money and maybe a gold watch? Please, I'm not trying to start a raging arguement. Just trying to understand the difference. For me, the whole thing is secruity in retirement. I'm looking at the day when I can't work no more due to health, age, etc.... What if the market today doesn't recover in the next year or two or five. That's five years that your money will not be growing. I think I'll opt for the union pension anyday. Like I say, I'm just trying to understand the difference from a retirement perspective.

J. Wilson
ex-IUE/CWA Local 173

Pensions. Ever heard of Enron? I'll control my OWN money thank you very much!

*note to mods...sorry for the oncoming rant*

This is what disgusts me about SOME of the organized labor people out there. Their views on those who are not organized.

Smarter and more self respect, give me a break. No other job in the world, do you hear about someone bragging about how much they get paid an hour. "Well I was making 18 bucks and hour, but now Im making 25 bucks an hour. Franky? Well hes not doing so good, he was making 23, but now he switched to another plant and is only making 21...plus bennies"

####, when I was a teacher...I couldnt tell you how much I was making by the hour, because to me my job was more important than the pay. Also ...I was salaried. If you had to pay me for ALL my hours, youd keel over. I seriously wonder how many organized labor supporters would support a substantial tax increase on their local taxes to support paying for their teachers total clock time.

In my job...I get paid to...do my job. Salaried. Best way I can think of it being done. No way to mess around with talking with the Joe Schmoe for 60 minutes and getting paid to do so. No, I get paid the same amount, whether my job takes me 50 or 80 hours a week to do it. My goal is actually to get done and get home as soon as possible.

If you want to work for the union / teamsters or whatever...fine...whatever turns your crank. But don't sit there, sticking up your nose at other drivers who feel they can do perfectly fine on their own.

My view point has been made on here before regarding organized labor. And at the end of the day, its about the job being performed. If you are going to sit here and tell me that you could provide a better job , better quality of work and better performance at your 25 an hour compared to me; you are very, extremely mistaken. And then it all boils down to...why should a company pay outrageus wages for a job that requires the skills of a ..........?
It all comes down to competition and comparable wages. Sure, I MAY do my job for less than you would. But at the same time, I don't consider what I do to be worth a high wage either. I can't find enough drugs to get me into that disillusioned state of mind.

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"You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept Communism outright. But we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you finally wake up and realize you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you; we’ll so weaken your economy that you will fall like over ripe fruit into our hands."
Former Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev

where does this kind of ''thinking'' come from?wow aint the word.

Hate to say this as a ''non-union'' man.But if more common carrier truckers would think like the ''teamsters'' we would not be in this mess we are in.

After 22 years of ''doing my job'' and doing it very well,i have been replaced by the ''scabs'' and the ''new breed'' with the mentality of slave labor..AND ''DOING MY JOB'',LOL,LOL

I am very sorry but if you truly are a teacher you of all people should ''figure'' out what the O.T.R. COMMON CARRIERS are doing here.What they are doing is breaking every labor law set down in this country.

So if you wanna sell your self short and work for ''free'' go right ahead.

But don't get pissed off at the ''teamsters'' because they have some self respect about themselves and some class and ''fight'' and believe they are worth more,NOT TO MENTION ''DESERVE MORE'' then ''slave labor''.

I signed up to be a ''truck driver'' 22 years ago..I did not sign up to ''LIVE IN A TRUCK'' AND ''HAVE NO LIFE''...

And if you think all you are worth as a ''professional'' driver is to work for ''chump change'' and live in a smelly truck,then thats on you.So just get down with your bad self and work for the worst wages,worst benifits,worst 401(if any),no future and keep on trucking 120 hours a week for a gross pay of 700.00...oh minus the 100.00 for ''road expence''..600.00 then minus taxes....

700.00-100.00 = 600.00 -22% = 468.00 take home

120 hours / 468.00 = 3.90 an hour

YEP YOU ARE DOING GREAT....ROLMFAO