those discounts are not that much..


example


my 1994 ranger xlt was bought on ford's employee/shop plan...
(I worked/consulted for Betz Dearborn at the time)

sticker was 18,900 dealer had 1000 cash offer

that leaves 17,900 my plan discount was 1890 (10% of sticker)

so that is 16,010 plus tax/title.

I picked the truck up in late 1993 (when I returned from Somalia "unosom 2 fiasco")


- so if I had waited until late 1994 for the year end clearance I could have bought the truck for the same price without employee discount..


the employee plan is a bennie that allows you to get a new model year early in the production run.

not much different from a discount your trucking employer may give you for hauling your household goods or a car or boat cross country.

people have the misconception that autoworkers get their new mustang gt's for 5K...

not so.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

that is just UPS drivers mack...


us NMFA guys get to let our hair grow long and smoke dope.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Sounds like Congress, does it not? Give anyone the power to write their own check from other peoples money and you open the door to greed and corruption.

As far as companies leaving this country, the tax structure in this country could not have anything to do with that could it?

Understanding the FED and how they have become so strong is the first step in understanding the power structure in the United States. Most people don't have a clue. Find the books and read them if you want to know why it has been said that "Private Banks are more dangerous than Standing Armies" All of our Tax dollars go to pay the debt we owe the FED for using their money; yes, their money. Certainly not ours.

What do you own in this country? Your home? Don't pay your taxes and see how long you live there! Your automobile? Don't pay for license and registration and see how far you can drive it.

The Tax system was not necessary a Century ago. There was no National Debt (Our Debt)! Yes, Unions follow suite within a corrupt world because the Union Members don't understand the ball game and the human race is basically (morally corrupted)! Education is the first rule to becoming a Free Nation again; if it is not already too late.

Who gets a day off and why? This must be reported.

Yes, it is obscene, but then what most CEO's earn is chicken feed compared to a good business person who understands the world of Marketing and Profit share.

When you (your family) go to the grocery store. How much do they spend each trip on the average?

In a good home base business where you represent a company that profit shares, take just one item and see the potential of minimum income.

Consider a Marketer must build a customer base for a business. That is their prime objective and challenge, as they do not receive a (so called) pay check for punching a time clock.

Why is capitalism so lucrative? Why do some have all they need in life while others have to struggle to buy gas and pay utilities?

A little exercise:
Customer base 5 wide x 7 deep
Item cost $12 single monthly purchase
Profit per customer base
5 x 40%
25 x 5%
125 x 5%
625 x 20%
3,125 x 5%
15,125 x 5%
then line 7 x 20%

Now, that is the minimum income potential for filling a customer base. Consider the amount of money people spend on the average ($75), and say your customer base is only 2/3rds full.

What is your potential income? (Just for spending the money you already spend, but in a different type of store?)

What is you potential just for believing in the power of wealth building over Robin Hood Economics (Taxing everyone to death for social programs).

Now ask yourself why you can't afford $100 per barrel of oil; $150 per barrel of Oil and what will happen $2 per barrel of oil. In 1999, the cost was just $11 per barrel. Now people are rioting around the world because of food shortages because we are taking food items from the farms and turning them into Gas rather than feeding the world. Recent news: Egypt, Vietnam and other countries that have stopped exporting food so they can feed their own people first.

Money - Corporate Pay - Government Pay - Earned Income - Welfare (the social needs of society that have their hands out to government)

We can't beet the greedy, but we can learn new ways to overcome the ever increasing cost of living and as someone once said, "when the people lead the leaders will follow!" They won't have any choice. However, as long as people have their hands out to government and as long as people refuse to look to ways to improve their lives, nothing will change but the cost of living ever on the rise!

LMAO----Good one........

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Unite and support the Truckers Strike and take no grief from anyone official...

Buckle up for for your life...

We Need to Restore order in this Country

As for Long Hair and Smoking Dope! Cute, but all kidding aside, the major problems of this country are what they are because of this attitude. A 30% average has been stated as being the number within our communities that use and or abuse illicit drugs.

Makes one wonder if we have a real chance in this world when there are so many sand heads that produce nothing but a garbage world for our children and grandchildren to live in.

What a shame. And Unions? They will never stand a chance where there are no supporters to top off the fact most of the leadership are not there to take care of anyone but themselves.

Who has to make the change? We, the people!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!!


- I have my ghillie suit on and my rifle loaded!

been burying MRE's in the back yard for months....


have not taken my "medicine" in 4 weeks - and the squirells started talking to me AGAIN....

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

You know what is funny, as a Teamster my unit was governmental employees. We were generally conservative, we all owned guns, and half of the folks were "anti-government" types, and a couple were always talking about the day of reckoning coming near. We had one guy who has a school bus that he plans to bury for his bunker, and he often talks about the fact that the indian reservation near his house is a "sovereign nation" and that him and his buddies may attempt an armed take over and establish their own nation, surrounded by Michigan. Forget 4 weeks, he never went to the doc...he isnt crazy(just ask him)...and lat, I think you are confused, squirells communicate telepathically...they are non-union and therefor too efficient to waste time talking...at least that is what they communicated to me

and... I bring this thread back to life...

because - a lot of post recently belong here - and not where they wound up...

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Very Good...I cut some out to add to this... Taxes are a game played to control this country and the world economically by the Feds. We have a 70,000 page tax code that exists for the sole purpose of Congress being able to move money, take from here and give to here. This provides "tax breaks" for corporations who then donate to Congressional members who then stay in office and live off of us.

There is an out... it's called the FairTax.... [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . It is backed by 73 members of Congress. Support them. The Fairtax eliminates the tax code and replaces it with a new 130 page tax code. It eliminates the IRS. It eliminates all embedded federal taxes on all purchases. It eliminates all Fed. Income taxes. It eliminates all Fed. Corporate taxes. It replaces all with one simple retail luxury tax, paid by everyone who makes a purchase. Cost of goods does NOT go up becuase all other embedded taxes have been eliminated. And income increases by 20% or more every paycheck because all income and other fed. taxes are now eliminated.

There are books that explain this. It WORKS! Which is why 73 members of Congress suport it. But we need alot more. BTW, the candidates for President will not even discuss it... wonder why? So do I. Power.

Union wages do not have anything to do with jobs moving to a country that pays .25 cents an hour, China, a communist country. A country we spent billions of dollars fighting in Korea, and Viet Nam, not to mention American lives lost.

Greed has everything to do with jobs going to China. Sam Walton went to China. He came home and demanded that his suppliers move to China, to take advantage of cheap Chinese labor. And they did. I CALL THIS TREASON. You probably call it good business.

Side note: China is building it's military with our money. We have little ability to defend our selves because our industrial base has been moved to CHINA. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING BROKE LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

The idea that Americans will compete with a third world people is a joke. There is no way we can compete with .25 an hr labor. Are you as a truck driver going to drive for 3rd world wages. Are you going to compete with Mexican truck drivers.

What can people be thinking?

No need for unions you say. The shabby, no, despicable treatment drivers face now seem to me to sound like the same old problems that you say brought on unions to begin with. The problems facing truckers now are the same as labor faced 100 years ago. Long hours, working 7 das a week, working on holidays, poor, even bad treatment, (not just bad treatment but drivers get ripped off), by the companies they work for. Bad treatment by shippers and receivers. Having to be on the road 3,4,5,6 weeks at a time then coming home for a couple days or to a week. What am I missing out on. Do truck drivers like this? If they do then it's not abuse.

A driver should get 2 days off for every 5 days worked! That's it! No matter how you slice it, 2 days off for every 5 days on. What the heck is going on? Do you as drivers make so much money you give this up along with all the other things people get, like holidays? If you do then I'm all wrong. I hope someone says yes. Maybe you all get all the good stuff I just read it wrong.