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Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA news here. Are you a member of the Teamsters, OOIDA or another Organization involved with trucking or transportation? What are the good and bad sides to Unions? Discuss the finer points of Unions or Organizations here.

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Yes, we're fighting the cross border trucking program. We aren't fighting for amnesty though, considering we're not in the AFL-CIO. Were you fooled by this skewed anti-union brainwash article?
Whith some of the Police in Houston getting killed by Illegals it seems theyre union would be raising all kinds of heck.But the police mans hands are tied far as checking for Illegals.
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Whith some of the Police in Houston getting killed by Illegals it seems theyre union would be raising all kinds of heck.But the police mans hands are tied far as checking for Illegals.

All the Unions are into these days is collecting dues and harassing non-union people...........
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Right on

You got that right Talked to a friend thats on a pipeline said the union was sending operators that did not even know how to start the machinery.Are maybe thats not in the book or not theyre job.LOL
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Whith some of the Police in Houston getting killed by Illegals it seems theyre union would be raising all kinds of heck.But the police mans hands are tied far as checking for Illegals.
So what do you propose they do? Build a fence? It's a shame that it happened, but a localized police union cant change federal laws.

Your post serves as a testament to how some people will blame anything on the union.
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All the Unions are into these days is collecting dues and harassing non-union people...........
Most people learn to stop generalizing in kindergarten.

Do you have any substance to back up your claim?
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All the Unions are into these days is collecting dues and harassing non-union people...........

Most people learn to stop generalizing in kindergarten.

Do you have any substance to back up your claim?
Yeah, I was a member of local 150 IUOE in Illinois back in the 90's. Didn't do #### for me. I was driving 100 miles a day to the south side of chicago to run an end loader in a gravel pit. There was an operator 15 miles from that pit running the same machine doing the same job in my home town for the same company!!!! No amount of asking pleading and bellyaching from either of us(we knew each other) could get our positions switched!!! We put almost 20K miles on our personal rigs in a little over 4 month because a BA wanted to be an azzhole!!! Thats about all they are good for!!

On another job I was always getting hassled by the BA's in Illinois. I sent to many lazy ### laborers back to the hall. One BA brought one of those lazy ######## back out after i sent him in and proceeded to tell me i had to use him. I told the BA straight up i needed someone that would pick up a shovel and work faster than a snail or i would get out of the machine and do my own damn shoveling. The BA said i couldn't do that but i told him to go piss up a rope as this job was going to be done ON SCHEDULE! I was fined $500 one time as it was against Union rules to run more than 2 different pieces of equipment a day and i jumped on a 3rd as i can't stand around with my thumb up my ### and watch someone work. The little punk laborer narked to the BA about me and i got spanked. That was the last day i worked for a Union and will never again!!! As far as construction Unions go it's all about backstabbing and protectionism. Go ahead and stand around with your thumb up your ###!!! You'll get paid no matter what!!! I never met a BA i liked.........


Also 75% of Illinois Union political $$ goes to liberal democraps!!!!
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Without unions, we wouldn't have grocery store checkers making $20.00 per hour (plus triple-time on holidays) doing the same thing that Wal Mart checkers seem to be able to do just as well for $12.00.

I had to go to school, go through training, deal with DOT and other local revenue collectors, and keep from dragging my trailer over idiot drivers who insist on sitting in my blind spot in order to make $19.20 per hour, tops.

Would I do it for less? Hell no. Why these people continue to go to Swift, Schneider, Werner, etc for .22-.26 per mile is mind-boggling. We don't need unions to help us make more money, we simply need to look at the position and say "No, I won't do this job for that money," and look for another job that pays better for less effort.

Oh, and the reason that unemployment went down during the Clinton administration is because Republicans forced welfare reform down his throat.
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We don't need unions to help us make more money, we simply need to look at the position and say "No, I won't do this job for that money," and look for another job that pays better for less effort.

That's how i worked my way to the top also. I wasn't looking for a handout!! If you have a skill and are a hard worker jobs are easy to come by even in a bad market! I could go back to ANY of my former employers tomorrow with a phone call too. It's called don't burn your bridges behind you...........

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Oh, and the reason that unemployment went down during the Clinton administration is because Republicans forced welfare reform down his throat.
Tommy Thompson in Wisconsin was one of the BIGGEST contributors to that with Wisconsin's Welfare to Work program.
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Most people learn to stop generalizing in kindergarten.

Do you have any substance to back up your claim?
My company leases space behind a frozen goods warehouse to use as a drop lot. The workers of the warehouse went on strike so the all do their picketing thing. They would walk slowly(They practice this skill while they are working) across the driveway. I could care less about this but then they have to do this to hold me up and interfere with my making a living. I am not pulling a reefer so I obviously am not doing business with this warehouse. By irritating me they aren't making me sympathetic to their cause just reaffirming my beliefs as to their laziness. Oh and tossing nails on the ground was not cool either. Seems to me if they wore turbans we would call them terrorist.
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My company leases space behind a frozen goods warehouse to use as a drop lot. The workers of the warehouse went on strike so the all do their picketing thing. They would walk slowly(They practice this skill while they are working) across the driveway. I could care less about this but then they have to do this to hold me up and interfere with my making a living. I am not pulling a reefer so I obviously am not doing business with this warehouse. By irritating me they aren't making me sympathetic to their cause just reaffirming my beliefs as to their laziness. Oh and tossing nails on the ground was not cool either. Seems to me if they wore turbans we would call them terrorist.

Great post!! I seem to remember 2 strikes that didn't work out. Overnite was on strike for almost a year. Many lost their azzes by listening to Union promises. Do you think the Union leaders were getting a paycheck during this time??? Hell yes they were!!! And i think EVERYONE remembers the Caterpillar strike................
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