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I am just wondering why these guys are not behinde us on this one??
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I am just wondering why these guys are not behinde us on this one??
#1 OOIDA can not call for a strike. Against the law.

#2 The teamsters got their contract. Why would they concern themselves when it gives them more freight?
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I am just wondering why these guys are not behinde us on this one??

as in "behind you on this one" you mean fuel strike?

???


well we have petitioned the Gov't - and raised a lot of hell... a lot more hell than OOIDA ever could.

not to mention our fight against mary peters - and mexican freight lanes/trucks...

A lot of the old teamsters kind of snort at this sort of comment about being behind - especially since right after dereg - a lot of OO's dropped their support of the Teamsters and fell inot the last "25-30" years of a free for all that hurt not only freight rates - but created a lot of division between drivers.
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I can tell you how a lot of Teamsters see it. The independants crossed our picket lines for years. Alot of them even seemed to get some kind of joy out of crossing our lines.

Can you see why they might not be 100% behind the independants now?
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as in "behind you on this one" you mean fuel strike?

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well we have petitioned the Gov't - and raised a lot of hell... a lot more hell than OOIDA ever could.

not to mention our fight against mary peters - and mexican freight lanes/trucks...

A lot of the old teamsters kind of snort at this sort of comment about being behind - especially since right after dereg - a lot of OO's dropped their support of the Teamsters and fell inot the last "25-30" years of a free for all that hurt not only freight rates - but created a lot of division between drivers.

WOW now that is some CB talk right there! Do you think OOIDA didn't play a role in Mary Peters deal? WELL THEY PLAYED A BIG ROLE

What do you think you guys have gotten accomplished from your "so called strike"?
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I watched the congressional hearing on the Mexican Truckers issue with Mary Peters. I saw NO Teamsters even present. And the attorney that OOIDA sent as their representative was less than impressive on the issue, in fact he was promptly shut down, because the issues that he was addressing were not related. I don't think that either one really had an impact on the issue, what I do think is that Mary Peters got caught turning her head on the whole issue, and someone internally to the DOT blew the whistle. Just my opinion though.
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WOW now that is some CB talk right there! Do you think OOIDA didn't play a role in Mary Peters deal? WELL THEY PLAYED A BIG ROLE

What do you think you guys have gotten accomplished from your "so called strike"?

re mary peters - show me... I think you are wrong. show me OOIDA's
involvement to bring issues to light and to the press...


as for "the strike" - it is not mine - I still get a paycheck no matter what the pump reads.

hurts other aspects of my "portfolio" - but the picket crossers of yesterday get little sympathy from me when they were warned what cutting rates would do.
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http://www.teamster.org/08news/nr_080311_2.asp


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http://www.teamsterstakeaction.org/campaign/contempt


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when was the last time OOIDA stepped on toes "first"?

OOIDA has a long history of jumping on the "me too" wagon and reiterating points already made by the ATA or the Teamsters...

as a member paid organization OOIDA is held legally liable for everything they say - and they don't have the membership or power to deal with issues effectively.
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And just think some folks in these parts are trying to trick me into thinking that OOIDA is the best thing sense Buttered Bread..

I guess I know where that is all going
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A lot of the old teamsters kind of snort at this sort of comment about being behind - especially since right after dereg - a lot of OO's dropped their support of the Teamsters and fell inot the last "25-30" years of a free for all that hurt not only freight rates - but created a lot of division between drivers.
Maybe in your ten years experience you have been told this?

Let's see a little history, When I first started trucking many truck owner drivers were union members ( some still are in fact).

What was that local in Los Angeles.... was it 150? The one all the owner operators who hauled out of the ports in Los Angeles used to belong to.

When contractors came in with "employee" drivers for lower rates, the union called on it's strength to save those peoples jobs ( not hardly).

This of course was before deregulation, after all local drayage was not regulated anyway.

Owner drivers are responsible for division between drivers... who uses the word SCAB to describe whom?

The owner drivers for decades have tried to remain in business, is it them who cross picket lines "gleefully" or is it non union company drivers and share cropping lease or lease purchase drivers?

Maybe to a union hand there is no difference because they are all non union?

The original question of this thread... why are OOIDA and the union not backing the "strike" "shut down" never was addressed.

The union is a labor organization.. they negotiate a labor agreement between ( in this case) the trucking company management and the driver employees... There is nothing in the contract of MOST teamsters about fuel cost because the driver does not own the truck. There is no basis for union employees to support this shut down. This is not in the purview of a labor union.

OOIDA on the other hand cannot by law advocate a shut down. Many angry members have called OOIDA demanding OOIDA commit a federal crime and ADVOCATE for a shut down.

Individual OOIDA members can choose to shut down something UNION members cannot do. OOIDA has clearly stated it's support for members who choose to shut down just as it has clearly stated it's support for members like me who will not shut down until I see some defined reason to do so and some defined remedy to be accomplished. Frustration is not reason enough.

Individual employees at OOIDA (as individuals) may in fact have used their free time to put as much of their experience to work as possible to help raise public awareness of these shut downs and protests, and even I support them in doing so.

I have looked in vain all over the internet and through the publicity raised for some reason to myself support a shut down. ( I have not yet found one) BUT many people in OOIDAs' offices do and have contributed as individuals as much as they can to promote the actions of those members who have staged shut downs and protests in the belief ( which I do share in some amount) that any publicity of the plight of truckers in this instance of high fuel costs is beneficial to the whole industry. Union members might and even UNION leadership might in fact have been as supportive ( as individuals) for the same reasons.

The strike thread is in another part of this forum, this part is limited to discussion of UNIONS and OOIDA etc.

Even here where so many are so adamant in calling for a shut down no one has expressed clearly what this shut down is for and what remedy they will demand.
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