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your real cute, comin on here, tellin everyone that the unions are on their way out. If they are, then so are you, because if you beleive the bs you preach, YOU will also be on the way out. A Mexican will do your job for half your pay or less. You think you are any better at your job than him? Guess what, your not. So every time you get some scab attitude, tellin everyone your opinions, being rude, so will i.

Your ruining truck driving, just like scabs are ruining every skilled trade around, by working for less, feeding their families with less, doing the same for less. And you are not doing ok. You are away from your family more, you get paid less, and you have poor benefits.

Congratulations on being the winner in the IQ race to the bottom. and by the way, kiss my teamster ###, while you are working for free.....
Hey New Yorker! I make more money today then I ever have, and I dont need a Union to baby sit me from the company I work for. Your Northeast attitude is why people hate driving up there.

Does anyone have the statistics on how many Union members there were 15 years ago ? 10 years ago? and how many today? DRIVE SAFE
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Iam sure that you can stand up for your self, just as everyone else. I've seen a non union person get fired for buying a cup of coffee when he was not on break an another took the day off for his child surgery. very unfair they both work their over ten years. who stood up for their rights.
As for going on on strike I to will stand up for myself.
It sounds to me lke your are a lumper if so thats is hard work I've been there,if you are working 95% harder for less the math is backwards. All the union is saying to the co's is fair days work for a fair days pay.as for how much work they do per hour. you should do more research.That may be true for brick layers but not for freight haulers I work 13 1/2 hrs per day 5 days per week I have done city p/d for 13 yrs linehaul the rest of my time . I will enjoy my retirement.
Unions are not for everyone I do work for a very good union carrier the best in my opinion they are very good employer oh by the way I started out by sweeping the the dock in the am and lumping their freight in warehouses at night to wee hour in the am.
Maybe if everyone was Union, then maybe it would balance out. But everyone isnt Union. If you look at Union products that sell to the public, they must cost more. Example: More people shop at Winco instead of Fred Meyer/Kroger (Oregon) because its cheaper. If Fred Meyer wasnt Union then they could compete with Winco. Alot of people would rather buy the same product for less (at Winco) because it only makes sense. If your a Union member do you shop at Union stores? Or do you go buy the same product for less a block away.? Common sense. I understand you support Unions because your a member, but cant you see that the Unions keep taking more from your company (your wages go up and benefits etc.) which in turn cripples them? Its just a matter of time. Look what happend to this car hauling outfit. Driver making great money, but the Union keeps taking and taking (for the employees of course) and it sucked the life out of a company.
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Hey New Yorker! I make more money today then I ever have, and I dont need a Union to baby sit me from the company I work for. Your Northeast attitude is why people hate driving up there.

Does anyone have the statistics on how many Union members there were 15 years ago ? 10 years ago? and how many today? DRIVE SAFE
If you want to get comparative with union workers, I make more money today than you ever have, and we dont babysit anybody.

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Maybe if everyone was Union, then maybe it would balance out. But everyone isnt Union. If you look at Union products that sell to the public, they must cost more. Example: More people shop at Winco instead of Fred Meyer/Kroger (Oregon) because its cheaper. If Fred Meyer wasnt Union then they could compete with Winco. Alot of people would rather buy the same product for less (at Winco) because it only makes sense. If your a Union member do you shop at Union stores? Or do you go buy the same product for less a block away.? Common sense. I understand you support Unions because your a member, but cant you see that the Unions keep taking more from your company (your wages go up and benefits etc.) which in turn cripples them? Its just a matter of time. Look what happend to this car hauling outfit. Driver making great money, but the Union keeps taking and taking (for the employees of course) and it sucked the life out of a company.
Although there's no way around the "higher wages means lower profits" argument, most still agree that the best means of being competitive are service and efficiency. Employee payroll becomes a smaller drop in a bigger bucket when a company has drivers running around MT or damn near it.

As for grocery stores, purchasing power and marketing arguably play a larger part on the operating ratio than payroll/benefits costs do. Take grocery stores in southern wisconsin for example. The most dominant grocery stores are roundy's stores (Pick'n'Save, Copps, and others), and they are the only grocery stores I know of that have union warehousemen, union drivers, and union store workers. The rest of the stores have union warehouses, and non-union storeworkers, or are non-union alltogether. Why are roundy's stores the best? They have more purchasing power, and their "chairman bob" marketing campaign stays in your head. When roundy's decimated the competition (piggly wiggly, kohls, and others) did they thank the union workers for keeping the operation running? Hell no. If roundy's loses business to any of the non union grocers, will the union get blamed for it? You can bet your bottom dollar on it...
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Hey New Yorker! I make more money today then I ever have, and I dont need a Union to baby sit me from the company I work for. Your Northeast attitude is why people hate driving up there.

Does anyone have the statistics on how many Union members there were 15 years ago ? 10 years ago? and how many today? DRIVE SAFE

Did you ever wonder why you make more money today then ever have???
The answer very simple the Union sets the base for all wages to be recieved by the non union sector. And by no means does a Union baby sit they are there for a unified voice of the workers, so when a company tries to abuse the system we just shut them down. I am sure at your cushy non union job if the boss tells you to do something thats just wrong or slightly against the fed regs when you tell him to go F himself your job is safe and secure? Or maybe not, I know with a union gig it would never fly
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my northeast attitude is why people hate driving up there? YOU hate driving up here because all the union guys who drive safe instead if speeding and cutting people off in their " home on wheels" make more then you EVER will. You are just another redneck wanting the "big mile runs.".......well, with the hours of service, and your companies cutting how fast your truck will go, GET USED TO HOW MUCH YOU MAKE, you will never make any more that what you do now, because you don't have any way to bargain with your company, you kiss ### and beg.

and btw, Teamster membership is up from last year, and we are 1.4 million strong, we aren't going down anytime soon. so have fun talking to your kid on the phone for 7 days straight, it seems like the smart thing to do would be make good money, have good benefits, AND go home to see them. But thats ok, if it were not for stupid people like you, I wouldn't realize that i have a GOOD job, and i dont have to live in a truck like you.
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I just noticed your 23... your just a kid... enough said. NOTHING LASTS FOREVER!
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my northeast attitude is why people hate driving up there? YOU hate driving up here because all the union guys who drive safe instead if speeding and cutting people off in their " home on wheels" make more then you EVER will. You are just another redneck wanting the "big mile runs.".......well, with the hours of service, and your companies cutting how fast your truck will go, GET USED TO HOW MUCH YOU MAKE, you will never make any more that what you do now, because you don't have any way to bargain with your company, you kiss ### and beg.

and btw, Teamster membership is up from last year, and we are 1.4 million strong, we aren't going down anytime soon. so have fun talking to your kid on the phone for 7 days straight, it seems like the smart thing to do would be make good money, have good benefits, AND go home to see them. But thats ok, if it were not for stupid people like you, I wouldn't realize that i have a GOOD job, and i dont have to live in a truck like you.

I have seen them driving in the far left lane where trucks are not allowed and driving 20 mph over the posted speed limit and then turning on the blinker and just starting over cutting off cars to make an exit like they were in a car. Really a safe driver. By the way, I did call the company and lodge a complaint.
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Although there's no way around the "higher wages means lower profits" argument, most still agree that the best means of being competitive are service and efficiency. Employee payroll becomes a smaller drop in a bigger bucket when a company has drivers running around MT or damn near it.

As for grocery stores, purchasing power and marketing arguably play a larger part on the operating ratio than payroll/benefits costs do. Take grocery stores in southern wisconsin for example. The most dominant grocery stores are roundy's stores (Pick'n'Save, Copps, and others), and they are the only grocery stores I know of that have union warehousemen, union drivers, and union store workers. The rest of the stores have union warehouses, and non-union storeworkers, or are non-union alltogether. Why are roundy's stores the best? They have more purchasing power, and their "chairman bob" marketing campaign stays in your head. When roundy's decimated the competition (piggly wiggly, kohls, and others) did they thank the union workers for keeping the operation running? Hell no. If roundy's loses business to any of the non union grocers, will the union get blamed for it? You can bet your bottom dollar on it...
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Did you ever wonder why you make more money today then ever have???
The answer very simple the Union sets the base for all wages to be recieved by the non union sector. And by no means does a Union baby sit they are there for a unified voice of the workers, so when a company tries to abuse the system we just shut them down. I am sure at your cushy non union job if the boss tells you to do something thats just wrong or slightly against the fed regs when you tell him to go F himself your job is safe and secure? Or maybe not, I know with a union gig it would never fly
Why does a Union tell you when to take a break, or Lunch? Or what to do with your 8 or 10 hour shift? Its like a middle man (taking your money and dictating).... If you cant handle going to work and doing your job, then go somewhere else! Why does a UNION need to hold your hand through the details? Why do truckers hate going to grocery warehouses? Why did I have to wait an addtional 30 minutes to get that last pallet put on my truck before I could leave? (Union says its break time)?. I see lazy people working for Unions (not drivers) but as warehouse workers and why does it take 4 hours longer to get unloaded at Union warehouses? Why cant Union workers unload and count? Oh yeah, you cant unload.. Oh Im done with this lazy Union garbage! If your Union, enjoy it while you have it!!! and as always DRIVE SAFE!
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Why does a Union tell you when to take a break, or Lunch? Or what to do with your 8 or 10 hour shift? Its like a middle man (taking your money and dictating).... If you cant handle going to work and doing your job, then go somewhere else! Why does a UNION need to hold your hand through the details? Why do truckers hate going to grocery warehouses? Why did I have to wait an addtional 30 minutes to get that last pallet put on my truck before I could leave? (Union says its break time)?. I see lazy people working for Unions (not drivers) but as warehouse workers and why does it take 4 hours longer to get unloaded at Union warehouses? Why cant Union workers unload and count? Oh yeah, you cant unload.. Oh Im done with this lazy Union garbage! If your Union, enjoy it while you have it!!! and as always DRIVE SAFE!
Were should I start, well mr steering wheel holder it is a major misconseption you have of the union, first off there is no palletized freight in our division, I am a union car hauler, and not all teamsters are paid hourly. In our craft we are paid by the load that we haul so if the job I do takes me 6 hours and you as a new hire it would take 10 hour we would both be paid the same for the same job,which by the way is a skilled profession. I can hold a steering wheel of any truck but any truck driver cannot haul cars.
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