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Old 09.01.2008
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Hi all,

USF Glen Moore just got organized in Kansas City, KS.

They got a signifigant wage increase, plus improved health and welfare benifits.

I can't believe how many people are anti-union in the t/l sector. It baffles me that people want to work for free. I did non-union t/l and ltl for several years, when I got a union job, I thought I died and went to heaven.

I am not lazy by any means either, I do just over 3,000 miles a week. I just get paid for everything now...

Happy trails and be safe everyone.
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Hi all,

USF Glen Moore just got organized in Kansas City, KS.

They got a signifigant wage increase, plus improved health and welfare benifits.

I can't believe how many people are anti-union in the t/l sector. It baffles me that people want to work for free. I did non-union t/l and ltl for several years, when I got a union job, I thought I died and went to heaven.

I am not lazy by any means either, I do just over 3,000 miles a week. I just get paid for everything now...

Happy trails and be safe everyone.
Well first off, welcome to this site. Second off, the union stuff on here gets pretty heated (Im not union....not anti-union per se...just wont catch me working for them, ever). With that in mind, the threads get shut down fairly quickly. You can still access the locked threads just not post on them and since nobody gains any ground and the union / anti-union BS rhetoric that flies around is the same time after time ('you work for free', 'you don't work at all', 'Im not lazy, my nap times are in the contract as part of the work day"...etc), they get locked up quickly.
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Well first off, welcome to this site. Second off, the union stuff on here gets pretty heated (Im not union....not anti-union per se...just wont catch me working for them, ever). With that in mind, the threads get shut down fairly quickly. You can still access the locked threads just not post on them and since nobody gains any ground and the union / anti-union BS rhetoric that flies around is the same time after time ('you work for free', 'you don't work at all', 'Im not lazy, my nap times are in the contract as part of the work day"...etc), they get locked up quickly.
Well thank you for the welcome. I just wanted to share my piece, everyone has a different opinion. That's what makes this country what it is. I just wanted to let everyone know that the Teamsters have organized a T/L carrier being USF Glen Moore. Thanks again for the welcome!
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Well thank you for the welcome. I just wanted to share my piece, everyone has a different opinion. That's what makes this country what it is. I just wanted to let everyone know that the Teamsters have organized a T/L carrier being USF Glen Moore. Thanks again for the welcome!
Actually, hasnt this been out there for a while? I thought I heard new GM commercials on XM for a while for teams out of KC. The one Im thinking about has been playing for a month or so.
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The companies of USF (glen moore / reddaway / redstar / holland / morris?) etc etc are a mix of union and non -

USF was a trailer pool at one time - and prior to dereg there was a host of regional carriers that utilized them -
they all bonded under a "co-op" and became the companies collectively known as "USF"

Holland is the largest remaining Union USF... and the smallest of the Three largest YRC (YELLOW ROADWAY HOLLAND REIMER NEW PENN) companies

Glen Moore signed into a contract with YRC after the last change of ops - and is now handling a lot of of our truckload freight.

YRC logistics is also working to handle our coast to coast overflow.
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Just my 2 cents

My son worked for a non union shop in sheet metal industry. (My son was the general manager of the company) He would tell me about how him and his owner hated lazy union workers. The owner told my son stick with me I will make you a lot of money. My son bought everything this guy said. My son also has a son who has brittle bones disease As the economy keep growing bad this great boss keep taking away benefits. Which caused a strain to take son to doctor. This owner said he had to do this but it was for the good of the company. That way it will rebound and be better than ever. Well after 17 years with this great guy he came to my sons job site and told him He would have to reduce his salary by half My son quit and went to a union company He has all his benefits he lost. He makes more money has more days off with pay to spend with family. he just walked in his first labor day parade. He said he has been blinded for to long.
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why would you want to go union? Why NOT???

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why would you want to go union? do you hate to work? anyways unions are outdated and need to be taken out to the pasture.

I'll put it this way I go to a Union Wearhouse.....hmmm safeway Tracy, CA takes them 8 hours to unload a 3/4 full truck IF im lucky.

I go to some hole in the wall wearhouse like Gilber Paper in Stockton, CA take a Mexican and a pallet Jack 45 minutes to unload 44K pounds of paper, unions are what brought this country down to the way it is, they guys who works for what he has gets fired but union boy who cant scratch his balls without calling his union rep dont do anything and makes $$$
Well say what you want about unions... I belonged to one when I worked in the steel mill as a crane operator and the union didn't do #### for us, BUT... if there is ONE GROUP in this country that NEEDS a union, it is OTR drivers... all professional drivers for that matter.

When you have people, professional drivers, busting their ### working/driving 10+ hours plus a day, away from home for weeks, taking verbal abuse and under constant threat from dispatchers, and bringing in pay checks netting anywhere from $75 to $500 a week before taxes... you have a BIG PROBLEM.

There are literally THOUSANDS of statements on this forum condemning the abuse, verbal and otherwise, the low pay, the lies, the deceitful tactics, the known slave-like labor of newbies by the BIG companies (we know who they are) that put new drivers out as teams and trainers for 8 or more weeks at minimal pay ($200, $250, $350 per WEEK!) to keep their profit margins high (knowing most will never return once they go home)... and you ask "why would you want to go union?"

My god... why would you NOT want to go union? That isn't even logical questioning. I'm sorry, but though not an experienced driver, I am 57, and have been around the block a few times to know when one group is getting screwed by another group. Wake up! The laws and regs guiding the trucking industry, combined with the practices of the big companies, and ####-assed treatment of drivers... are a sin and until drivers as a group stand-up... and say enough... it won't stop. I'm just an avg, middle aged, out of luck and out of work guy..no organizer... but the conditions for non-union professional drivers sucks. "Paying your dues", as some on here say, is one thing. Being forced to bend over and take it by the Big Companies who control the industry... is an entirely different matter.

Just my 2 cents... but I don't like getting screwed. Read the union threads... see anyone there ######## about what other drivers are ######## about? Nope...
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Until the drivers them selves decide that they have had enough, nothing will happen or change. Too many of the drivers in this industry are still trying to "live" in their trucks and be a "slave" to big companies, and until that attitude dissappears, the problems will still be here and become worse.
This is the most pro union statement within an otherwise anti union post I have read...

You mention lobbyists for unions, and you fail to mention the lobbyists as well as members of Congress that are beholden to the owners and boards of these large companies S***T, K****T, C******T... and many more... the driver mills. Professional drivers, particularly those just coming out of schools, are slaves to the industry if they want to work. Take the abuse and shut the f*** up. That's BS. With the falsifying of DAC reports that goes on, the false safety reporting by companies, all the BS you can read about here... and you question why anyone would want to be union? I hope to god I am lucky enough to have someone here help me get into a union job. I'll take it in a heartbeat.

Now I'm up to 4 cents worth...
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why would you want to go union? do you hate to work? anyways unions are outdated and need to be taken out to the pasture.

I'll put it this way I go to a Union Wearhouse.....hmmm safeway Tracy, CA takes them 8 hours to unload a 3/4 full truck IF im lucky.

I go to some hole in the wall wearhouse like Gilber Paper in Stockton, CA take a Mexican and a pallet Jack 45 minutes to unload 44K pounds of paper, unions are what brought this country down to the way it is, they guys who works for what he has gets fired but union boy who cant scratch his balls without calling his union rep dont do anything and makes $$$
A person would want to go union for all that unions have to offer. And they can get better pay because the unions nego. for the workers.

Why any working man would not want to belong to a union is beyond me. Union workers get paid good. They are, in many, cases trained. Because they are paid better they work harder in order to keep that pay, and keep that job. Union guys can be fired, it would be wrong to think other wise. If a union guy does bad work the union will only protect them to a certain extent.The unions know that they have a reputation to live up to and they can't afford to protect slacker.

I'll put it thia way, if you are running into problems with union shops unloading you there may be many reasons; one maybe because your nonunion??????????

If you go some place that hires Mexicans and they unload you in 45 mins its probably because the Mex is makin one days wage in one hour as he would make in one day in Mexico. If I could make a days wages, say $200.00 in 1 hour, in some other country as an illegal, you can bet I would work extra extra extra hard also!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :b iggrin_25526:
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I think the Unions are slowly puttering you out. As you may have heard, Boeing is on Strike and then when they do return, some will be LAID OFF for financial reasons?? Can you imagine being on strike then going back to work, and then your handed a slip saying LAID OFF... HHhhmm.. I hope you make it to retirement before your gig comes to an end. Save up! Strike and your only hurting your own employer (and yourself). In the mean time, DRIVE SAFE
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