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This is all very interesting but to involved for me. I'm out.
I don't blame you.

That's what this guy tries to do, he drags things out with nonsense supported by nonsense. I just had to stop talking with him.
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In my opinion it was better for a driver before deregulation. Deregulation opened it up for the non union truckload carriers. Before deregulation it was pretty much a level playing field because the freight rates were regulated by the ICC. Rates had to be filed with the Interstate Commerce Commision. If a company wanted authority to run somewhere they had to petition the ICC for operating authority in the area they wanted to go to. It was a long process and the LTL carriers had a lot of places they were allowed to run and other carriers had to stay out of. If a carrier had a load going to an area they didn't have authority for they had to "interline" it with a carrier who did. Basically deregulation made it possible for the trucking company to go where they wanted to and charge what they wanted to charge, with a minimum of red tape. Thats when all the rate cutting got started. We also got 53 ft trailers, 102 wide trailers, and 80,000 # gross weight nationwide. Deregulation was great for the truckload industry, but the drivers didn't gain anything from it, that I can see. The DOT rules and regs stayed the same. Union companies started going out of business because they couldn't compete with the truckload carriers. In 1980 a lot of the truckload carriers were only paying 17 to 22 cents per mile. 90% of the company trucks out there were short wheelbase cab overs with no power steering, small engines{anyone remember the shiny 290's} and no A/C. After deregulation the drivers didn't make any more money, a lot of union drivers were forced to take lesser paying OTR jobs, after the union co.'s went out of business. JB, Swifty, Werner, the list is long, got where they are today because of deregulation. And they are all major players on these forums about bad company's to work for. Some will say deregulation was good, some will say its bad. I think it was bad for the drivers, but thats my opinion.
I am a little late in this discussion
But the way it was before deregulation sounds like the way the mafia would run things
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US government or Mafia? Both about the same in my opinion. They do what they want and you better not get in their way. The only difference I see is the government will put you in jail, the Mafia goes to jail.
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At least the mafia shares.
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I don't blame you.

That's what this guy tries to do, he drags things out with nonsense supported by nonsense. I just had to stop talking with him.
Lol hey, if it makes you feel any better...Im the one arguing with people who say that the trucking companies are hurting the rest of the industry. When in fact, the 90% of the industry is made up of trucking companies with 20 or fewer trucks.

That and apparently, the main theme here is that...its ok to run your own business, but stay where you are told, charge a set rate (government control...hmm?), and you can only grow so much.
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At least the mafia shares.
When the Mafia ran Las Vegas you had gambling. Now business runs Las Vegas you have flat our robbery.
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