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Don't put the brakes on NAFTA trucking agreement

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The free trade movement is taking a beating this month. Prospects for new market-opening trade deals dimmed considerably last week with the collapse World Trade Organization talks in Geneva. Now Congress is preparing to renege on an important commitment in an existing trade deal — the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement.
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Yep, Mexican trucks, that's the biggest threat truckers are facing today.

It's not the record price for diesel.
It's not idling laws.
It's not HOS regulations.

It's a few trucks from Mexico.

Go Teamsters!!

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screw NAFTA, and the idiots that like outsourcing or good paying jobs south of the border

Ross Perot had it right about that great sucking sound coming from Mexico, its the sound of the US. citizens money headed south of the border.

If the Mexican trucker plan is ever fully implemented, every American trucker should be prepared to take a 50% cut in pay
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screw NAFTA, and the idiots that like outsourcing or good paying jobs south of the border

Ross Perot had it right about that great sucking sound coming from Mexico, its the sound of the US. citizens money headed south of the border.

If the Mexican trucker plan is ever fully implemented, every American trucker should be prepared to take a 50% cut in pay
How many trucks do you think are waiting down in Mexico to steal your job?

As of today there are approximately 100 trucks involved.
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How many trucks do you think are waiting down in Mexico to steal your job?

As of today there are approximately 100 trucks involved.
The key to this statement is "As of today". You think they won't be lined up THOUSANDS deep to get up here? It's not that they will steal our jobs. More trucks = less demand = lower rates = LESS FOOD ON MY TABLE. We've got Canadians (no offense) driving from canada to Mexico to drop a load off and the only people making anything off it is the oil companies. American drivers make nothing off of them driving through our country. Over the roads american taxpayers pay to create and upkeep. We need to stop looking out for everyone else and take care of ourselves for once.

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It’s time Congress ended its long fight to protect the U.S. trucking industry and allowed the administration to honor our treaty obligation. This attempt to keep Mexican trucks off U.S. highways only robs U.S. and Mexican consumers of the benefits promised under NAFTA
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I'm curious as to what these benefits will be for U.S. consumers? It seems to me the only people that will benefit are the Mexican truckers and their families. It's time Congress ended it's long fight to protect the us trucking industry? WHY? Who else is protecting us???
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The key to this statement is "As of today". You think they won't be lined up THOUSANDS deep to get up here? We've got Canadians (no offense) driving from canada to Mexico to drop a load off and the only people making anything off it is the oil companies. American drivers make nothing off of them driving through our country. Over the roads american taxpayers pay to create and upkeep. We need to stop looking out for everyone else and take care of ourselves for once.
Make it 10,000, what percentage would that be of active drivers in the U.S.?
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If they fully opened the border it would be thousands.
They would be having hundreds of soon to be drivers scrambling to get a license.
They have been building huge new ports in Mexico for several years in anticipation of the border being opened. That way the ships can go to Mexico and ship directly here, not having to ever enter US ports.

The part that many have a concern with is not this though. People like to expand on the rumor that the trucks could haul point to point in the US. This is not the case. It would be strictly to and from Mexico. They would not be permited to pick up loads in the US to deliver inside the US.

I still have concerns though, mostly having to do with the numbers they are giving on safety of the trucks. They have removed several of the fleets from the program already, because the trucks/ trailers were in bad condition. They then removed those fleets from there safety numbers, and thus changed the numbers to reflect what they wanted them to show.

The Mexican trucks would affect rates on Intermodal more than standard freight. Less containers for US trucks to haul. I doubt it would effect other sectors as hard.
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between the free traders,tree huggers and NIMBYS this country is going to he** in a handbasket, I just cannot understand why the US. insists on giving away our heritage
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between the free traders,tree huggers and NIMBYS this country is going to he** in a handbasket, I just cannot understand why the US. insists on giving away our heritage
Heritage???

Let's put the scary rhetoric about safety aside and review the history of trucking in North America.
Before 1982, trucks from Mexico and Canada traveled wherever they wanted within the United States. A 1982 moratorium banned new Mexican carriers (but not Canadian ones) from sending their trucks beyond the 20- to 25-mile commercial zones, where drivers have to transfer their cargo to U.S. trucks for the trip deeper into the States and, in some cases, into Canada.
But contrary to repeated news reports stating otherwise, not all Mexican trucks have been confined to the buffer zone since 1982. The moratorium exempted Mexican trucking companies that already were doing business in the United States prior to its enactment.
Let us not forget the reciprocal part of the trade agreement. Under the pilot program, U.S. trucks will get to make deliveries into Mexico. The concept of open markets and competition are hallmarks of the American free-enterprise system. Too bad some unionists and others don't see it that way.

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