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UPS Drivers Sue Teamsters

Louisville, Kentucky, and Dayton, Ohio (August 19, 200 – With free legal aid from the National Right to Work Foundation, three UPS employees in Kentucky and two UPS employees in Ohio filed federal lawsuits Friday and Monday, respectively, against national and local Teamsters officials for illegal extraction of forced union dues.
In the lawsuits, the nonmember employees claim that the national and local unions breached their duty of fair representation and violated the employees’ First and Fifth Amendment rights by charging and collecting fees used for organizing nonunion workers throughout the United States and financing a members-only “Strike and Defense Fund.”
At UPS facilities in Louisville and Dayton, Teamsters Local 89 and Local 957 had been certified as the respective monopoly bargaining agents. With Teamsters officials in place as “exclusive representatives,” nonmember employees lose the right to negotiate with their employer on their own merits, and a compulsory unionism clause in the contract compels them to pay tribute to the union as a condition of employment.
In the Foundation-won Communication Workers of America v. Beck (198, the Supreme Court allowed certain forced dues but established that objecting employees cannot be compelled to subsidize union activities unrelated to collective bargaining. One in a series of decisions in which the High Court ruled certain expenditures non-chargeable, Ellis v. Railway Clerks (1984) prohibits unions from charging and collecting fees from nonmembers for union organizing and member-only benefits.
Since March 2006, the union charged and collected from the nonmembers compulsory fees greater than 80 percent of the full dues and fees paid by union members. Union bosses failed to provide a required notice of Beck rights and disclosure detailing the basis of the fees until this year. The financial disclosure reveals that Teamsters’ compulsory fees include disallowed expenditures for the national union’s efforts to help organize nonunion employees in both the private and public sectors nationwide. The employees have also been forced to contribute to the “Strike and Defense Fund,” which bars benefits flowing to nonmembers.
Foundation attorneys are asking the U.S. District Courts for the Western District of Kentucky and the Southern District of Ohio to enforce the Supreme Court’s rulings in Ellis and Beck. The District Courts should prohibit the union from collecting fees used for these non-bargaining activities and award damages for the nonmember employees including all such illegal fees collected plus interest.
“It’s bad enough that employees who exercise their right to refrain from union membership are forced to pay fees to a union they do not want,” said Stefan Gleason, vice president of the National Right to Work Foundation. “But Teamsters bosses are violating the law by compelling nonmembers to fund strikes and organizing activities which seek to corral even more workers into forced unionism.”


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Now I wonder why they didnt want to be Union
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Now I wonder why they didnt want to be Union
They want a free ride, without putting in their dues. The other 190,000 employees seem to be doing good with the union though.
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I love articles FROM the organization that the story involves....


I am sure that I can find an article on a pedophile web site that claims and argues that man / boy love is natural and fine...



come on ronno - find some commentary from an impartial news source (and one that is reputable)
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I love articles FROM the organization that the story involves....
I am sure that I can find an article on a pedophile web site that claims and argues that man / boy love is natural and fine...

come on ronno - find some commentary from an impartial news source (and one that is reputable)
So they are not suing the Teamsters?
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So they are not suing the Teamsters?

and the guys in NAMBLA don't legitimately love their boy toys???

their lawsuit is not the point - the point is their motive

anyone can sue anyone over about anything - that does not warrant the validity of the litigation.
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and the guys in NAMBLA don't legitimately love their boy toys???

their lawsuit is not the point - the point is their motive

anyone can sue anyone over about anything - that does not warrant the validity of the litigation.
Doesn't every lawsuit have a motive?


Which states are traditionally union? Would we agree Michigan?

What's Michigan's unemployment rate? What's the national rate?

8.5% and 5.7% Is there a correlation?
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I see no correlation, considering Rhode Island and Mississippi are the next two states with the highest unemployment.

The strongest correlation that I see with unemployment by state is the states' largest industry. The lowest unemployment rates are in the great plains states, where agriculture is the dominant employer, which is about as steady as work can be. The state with the highest unemployment is the state that is suffering a depression due to the dying automotive industry..
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I see no correlation, considering Rhode Island and Mississippi are the next two states with the highest unemployment.

The strongest correlation that I see with unemployment by state is the states' largest industry. The lowest unemployment rates are in the great plains states, where agriculture is the dominant employer, which is about as steady as work can be. The state with the highest unemployment is the state that is suffering a depression due to the dying automotive industry..
Where do you suppose the Worlds largest automobile assembly plant is located?

You should really have said "dying U.S. automotive industry".
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They want a free ride, without putting in their dues. The other 190,000 employees seem to be doing good with the union though.
I tend to have a differant view from that. It's called extortion.

Free ride? They had to pay...just to work. They're being extorted by the union, not the company. 1900's all over again. Mean company...good Union. yeh right

Nothing is free. They work, they get paid. The Union doesn't wite their check...period.

They GAVE their money, so the Union hacks could do what they do as provided by law. And get no "extras" like the "members" do.

The rule of law covers everyone in the US. Not just Union members.

So it's far from a free ride.
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