Originally Posted by mannmk7

.....................................It is "true". Reagan is the union buster and was responsible for major damage to the working citizens of America, not just unions but all people's wages who are tied to and owe their wages to unions. To make things even worse he signed amnesty. ............

Originally Posted by caraldo

I wonder if all the mega anti union people realize they are on the forefront of pushing us to socialism/communism. Nobody pays real attention till it effects them. First it was high paying manufacturing jobs...everyone else said, well, those unions, did themselves in. Now its professionals, computer programmers and such. In my neck of the woods, factories that barely pay above minimum wage are going. Only a fool doesn't think they could be next. If something isn't done, soon, we will see people revolt, like they have done throughout history.

There aren't easy solutions. But when are we going to realize that soon, when 33% of us are out of work, and the rest are making so little, that they are hardly making it, that we have made a dire mistake.

Perot was right. Welcome to the U.S.A. The newest 3rd world country. Hope you stay safe during the revolution.

Originally Posted by mannmk7

Just because you say, "not true", does not make it not true. The so called decline you are talking about that took place before Reagan was because of a cut back in jobs do to the economic down turn, which always happened when the economy fall's off.

You say you support strikes as long as they don't hurt people. A strike is going to hurt everyone most all the time.

It is "true". Reagan is the union buster and was responsible for major damage to the working citizens of America, not just unions but all people's wages who are tied to and owe their wages to unions. To make things even worse he signed amnesty.

Ironically Reagan was a union member who depended on the union for his livelihood. Not only was he a union member but he was the head of the union. Long story short he was then paid off by big business, who took care of him. He betrayed his own brotherhood.

When Reagan became president he betrayed his own country by, not only busting unions, but by signing "Amnesty" allowing millions of Mexicans and others to flood into our country.(I would have to guess you are happy about this as well as your ability to shop a Wal Mart).

I will take this conversation just a little further. Not only has this non union mentality helped destroy wages in this country it has destroyed this country in general. Along with the, "kill the wages of Americans" mentality has has come "deregulation".

Deregulation is a euphemism for no rules, or no laws for business. At the same time the citizens have been inundated with new laws. New laws for the people, that generate revenue for the government, when you get fined. I call this movement by government, "Deregulate Business and Regulate the People".

No laws for business has now put our economy in "dire straight's", and a $700 billion bailout is in the works. That's over $20,000.00 per person.

Jobs and our resources to China and India, and jobs for American's at Walley World are all killing us. A country can not survive with the mentality that you subscribe to.

The turn of events that have happened since Reagan have brought us to this present financial disaster; which could take us into a depression.

Originally Posted by Highballin

Well now you sound like a 100% union man meaning anyone thats not union is on Welfare Medicade,and all the gov.assistant programs.Last time I checked everyone that draws a Paycheck does this unions included.
I would rather do this for people that is working and trying Than pay out this assistance to the ones that will not work or just to sorry to live on their own.When anyone go on strike dont they get assistance for doing nothing>???

Originally Posted by RickG

I have known people that intentionally work at low paying jobs like fast food chains and WalMart so they will get the government assistance I mentioned . They'd rather be a leech than pay into the system . These people also didn't feel obligated to serve in the military . FYI , I've never belonged to any union and I make good wages and don't have to work 70+ hours to earn them .

Originally Posted by Highballin

Well maybe some do as you say but not all Some work at these jobs because of where they live.Big city means Big jobs good pay scale Small towns small pay.Most that work in our Wal-Mart are to old for Military allthough some are ex Mil.Why are you not union if you want Wal Mart Target and the rest to go union?? If they did we would have to pay more for the made in China crap.