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Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA news here. Are you a member of the Teamsters, OOIDA or another Union involved with trucking or transportation? What are the good and bad sides to Unions? Discuss the finer points of Unions here.

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knighton5,

You can't remember how much you get paid per hour for detention time? Just a few hours ago you stated " It's fine now that we get paid detention!!!". You got paid to sleep for 10 hours and you don't have any idea what your rate is? Something is wrong here.

Isn't that nice of them to finally start paying detention! Does it start from the time you arrive or do you have to give up some time? If you have to give up any amount of time, you are only cheating yourself.

Maybe if companies started paying their driver's properly, you would see the turnover rate drop dramatically. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe you work for Crete now. Do you know what their turnover is?

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Some people dont want to tells things like that for certain reasons.Some very good reasons
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I have all ways though it kind of strange that anyone that crosses a picket line is a Scab.If so what do you call a union worker that will take a nonunion job till the strike is over??
A scab. By definition, he/she isn't a scab, but the label fits.
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A scab. By definition, he/she isn't a scab, but the label fits.
Hey thats great at least they are equil nounion and union still a Scab.
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knighton5,

You can't remember how much you get paid per hour for detention time? Just a few hours ago you stated " It's fine now that we get paid detention!!!". You got paid to sleep for 10 hours and you don't have any idea what your rate is? Something is wrong here.

Isn't that nice of them to finally start paying detention! Does it start from the time you arrive or do you have to give up some time? If you have to give up any amount of time, you are only cheating yourself.

Maybe if companies started paying their driver's properly, you would see the turnover rate drop dramatically. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe you work for Crete now. Do you know what their turnover is?

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I dont know what there turn over rate is, if i did know it wouldnt effect me anyway. As far as detention pay go's, I'm just happy to get paid anything, because when I first started driving, there was no detention pay. I guess I dont need alot to be happy driving.
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You know, I have read back through the posts here. I did not see any real answers provided by company drivers as to whether it is better to work for a non union company. There was a lot of anti union talk which I get. The fact of the matter is that nobody provided specific answers on why they felt there non union company was better. Even some union drivers posted and had answers to back up there claim. Right or wrong, they provided better answers than any other poster on here so far. You company drivers need to step up to the plate and explain your reasons in detail. I don't work for a union company but judging by the previous posts, you would think that unions were the only way to work. Come on people!

As I said, I don't work for a union company. I don't think it is needed here but I do think they help raise the bar so that companies will keep the union out by paying fair wages, benefits and provide good working conditions.

I haul tankers in southern california and nevada. We have occasional runs to washington and colorado. I am paid $22.50 per hour with overtime after 8. I work mon-fri and sometimes on saturday. We work a 70 hour week and sometimes I get pretty close to that in the summer. I am home every night unless I am on a long run. When I am gone overnight or longer, they reimburse for hotels and meals. They provide medical, dental and vision insurance for $60 per week that covers my family as well. I get 5 sick days per year and at this time, 2 weeks paid vacation paid at 1 5/2 of my last years gross. We get paid 8 hours for jury duty each day. The retirment is a 401K that they match $.50 for every dollar I put in up 3% of my gross. They provide uniforms and launder them at no cost to me. I get a boot allowance of $100 every year.

This is what other drivers need to here. Tell them about your company in detail. This really only applies to company drivers. I don't know of any o/o that are represented. The only thing that a union could do here is maybe get us a better retirement and lower our medical costs. They could also provide protection from getting fired unjustly but that has never been a problem here. We don't have to many employees about 30 work here.

I don't think a union would be a good idea here because of the way we are treated. If that ever changed, maybe I would have a different opinion.

Come on drivers, tell the rest of us why it is better to work for a non union company. Prove your point by facts. What does your company do to keep the union out?
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I dont have to wear a uniform. I dont have to run the same highway.
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I've been laid off three times in my union career, but I can honestly say that it has always been worth it. Despite the popular belief that unions hinder companies, it should be noted that union carriers have a vastly lower turnover rates. They are also proven to have higher job satisfaction rates. The people I work with, by and large seem to have a much greater sense of pride in their job. You also don't see some of the rediculous managerial behaviors that I've seen at some of my non-union companies. The fact is that a lot of anti-union propaganda is spread by people who either have an axe to grind, or a company that doesn't wish to be held accountable for their activities. Unlike a lot of my fellow members, I am a conservative politically. I don't let myself get all wrapped up in the political bs. There are definately problems with unions, but those problems tend to be no different with any outfit. It usually revolves around a few people, like any company.
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One thing about nonunion companies is raises and job assignments and promotions aren't decided by seniority . Slackers may see this as a bad thing but it rewards employees that are more productive and performing better , have less absenteeism , etc . I have seen too many union locals out of strike for months then settle for a contract that didn't come close to making up for all the wages lost during the strike . Ask airline pilots and UAW workers about union pensions .
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I haul tankers in southern california and nevada. We have occasional runs to washington and colorado. I am paid $22.50 per hour with overtime after 8. I work mon-fri and sometimes on saturday. We work a 70 hour week and sometimes I get pretty close to that in the summer. I am home every night unless I am on a long run. When I am gone overnight or longer, they reimburse for hotels and meals. They provide medical, dental and vision insurance for $60 per week that covers my family as well. I get 5 sick days per year and at this time, 2 weeks paid vacation paid at 1 5/2 of my last years gross. We get paid 8 hours for jury duty each day. The retirment is a 401K that they match $.50 for every dollar I put in up 3% of my gross. They provide uniforms and launder them at no cost to me. I get a boot allowance of $100 every year.
Off topic, but is that Kenan/KAG west? I heard they're good to work for. Klemm (owned by Kenan) here in Milwaukee gives o/o's first priority over company drivers, but I've heard both sides say that it's a good place to work for..
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One thing about nonunion companies is raises and job assignments and promotions aren't decided by seniority . Slackers may see this as a bad thing but it rewards employees that are more productive and performing better , have less absenteeism , etc . I have seen too many union locals out of strike for months then settle for a contract that didn't come close to making up for all the wages lost during the strike . Ask airline pilots and UAW workers about union pensions .
Productivity in a teamster shop seems to be concieved as mediocre at best, for some reason. I honestly couldn't disagree with that more. From a company standpoint, it is always more profitable to work the union force until they're out of HOS, due to the structure of our negotiated benefits. The cost of our benefits are paid for in our first 40 hours of the week, which negates the cost of 1.5x overtime. It also allows our employer to use the local p&d trucks to be used in the delivery area for longer hours, which decreases fuel and labor costs. As for the p&d drivers, nobody wants to pick up the slack for the slackers, and they will call out a slacker. One driver did 6 stops in 12 hours and got cussed off the dock a few weeks ago, and that is an extreme rarity. Most of the our guys have been doing this work for a long time and they know how to do it. Myself, I just did 15 d's, 6 p's and 318 miles today...

The same could be said for linehaul drivers. LTL drivers argubly drive the most miles out of any professional drivers, due to the planned efficiency of the LTL system. A lot of people say union drivers complain a lot, and I swear that our linehaul drivers WILL complain about not getting 600 miles per day. Is it wrong to want 600 miles a day?? I think not.
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