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Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA Teamsters, OOIDA, NAFTA news here. Are you a member of the Teamsters, OOIDA or another Union involved with trucking or transportation? What are the good and bad sides to Unions? Discuss the finer points of Unions here.

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I dont have to wear a uniform. I dont have to run the same highway.
That is your reason? Are you joking or are you serious?

It looks like you work for a non union company. I hope your benefits and pay are good. I am not really sure but I think our pay and benefits is pretty good. Does yours compare? Looking to help others out there make a good decision.
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I dont have to wear a uniform. I dont have to run the same highway.

No uniforms here either... and I have my pick of runs ranging from 380-624 miles in any and all directions.

Point is - be happy with your work - but if you are curious about Union employment please look into it.

the advantages are many compared to most OTR situations and factors.
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Off topic, but is that Kenan/KAG west? I heard they're good to work for. Klemm (owned by Kenan) here in Milwaukee gives o/o's first priority over company drivers, but I've heard both sides say that it's a good place to work for..
No it is not. I work for Airgas. There are quite a few tanker companies out here with KAG being one of them. I don't think any of them are union.

I have friends that work for union companies and are very happy. I think as long as we are paid as we are and receive the same benefits, there won't be a union here. I think that the union has a good influence on companies. They know if they pay there drivers right, there will never be a call for a union.

I find it troubling for our side because there has been know real responce from drivers that think a non union company is better. I read the posts here from otr and regional drivers. It looks pretty bad for most of them. I mean they seem to only be paid when the truck is moving. There are a lot of times that they are on duty but receive no pay. There is also a lot of turnover. I think most of it is because the driver is not used to that type of life. I know I would not like to be away from home for a long time. At least not at the way the drivers get paid on here. I have seen there benefits and they tend to be on the expensive side for the most part. I don't know of any union otr companies. If they exist, they keep real quite about it.

I am happy where I work. It looks like it is in the minority of good companies. Judging by the lack of real responces, I think I am right.
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No it is not. I work for Airgas. There are quite a few tanker companies out here with KAG being one of them. I don't think any of them are union.

I have friends that work for union companies and are very happy. I think as long as we are paid as we are and receive the same benefits, there won't be a union here. I think that the union has a good influence on companies. They know if they pay there drivers right, there will never be a call for a union.

I find it troubling for our side because there has been know real responce from drivers that think a non union company is better. I read the posts here from otr and regional drivers. It looks pretty bad for most of them. I mean they seem to only be paid when the truck is moving. There are a lot of times that they are on duty but receive no pay. There is also a lot of turnover. I think most of it is because the driver is not used to that type of life. I know I would not like to be away from home for a long time. At least not at the way the drivers get paid on here. I have seen there benefits and they tend to be on the expensive side for the most part. I don't know of any union otr companies. If they exist, they keep real quite about it.

I am happy where I work. It looks like it is in the minority of good companies. Judging by the lack of real responces, I think I am right.
If companys would charge shipper or reciever for truck waiting then they could pay the driver.And that needs to be done by all companys.
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Ya, what he said. and be happy! Your on this planet once.
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I think so!
You started this thread two weeks by stating, "I think so"?

As a fellow non union driver, I must say you did not make a very good argument for our side. In fact, neither has anyone else for the most part.

Why don't you help your case by providing examples of how your company and life are better because you are non union. You work for Crete right? Come on and help others on here.
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You started this thread two weeks by stating, "I think so"?

As a fellow non union driver, I must say you did not make a very good argument for our side. In fact, neither has anyone else for the most part.

Why don't you help your case by providing examples of how your company and life are better because you are non union. You work for Crete right? Come on and help others on here.

Ive got a history of my reasons on here more then once (different thread), i'm not gonna repeat them anymore... Is AIRGAS union everywhere, or only in certain locations? thx
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Listen to the talk of most OTR drivers and what they want out of a job...


they will not find it with a non union company.

they will find most of their desires with a union company...
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Ive got a history of my reasons on here more then once (different thread), i'm not gonna repeat them anymore...

That is a dumb statement. You started this thread. You posted that non union trucking companies are better but give no answers as to why. When I ask for specifics, you say that you are not going to repeat them. How about repeating them so that the rest of the drivers don't spend valuable time looking up your comments. Maybe you can condense it down with bullet points?


Is AIRGAS union everywhere, or only in certain locations? thx
I don't know if AirGas has any union locations. Why would you care? I sure don't. This is for non union questions and answers. Like I said before, you are not giving the rest of us non union drivers any information as to why it is better to work non union. I gave you specific reasons for me. How about you doing the same!
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lol...ok...I didnt' know this thread even existed and I can't stop laughing long enough to read the threads. on the first couple of pages...it was brought up that:
*11 bucks an hour is not a good wage for a low skilled job at target. The person who was writing this also made a comment about how the workers are required to work and they get fired for not doing their jobs....apparently this is bad?
*Wal mart (or wal mart AND target) are the anti-christ and are the reason China is so big.
*we are turning into a socialist / communist country by being anti-union (which is weird because I referred to the union side a while back as seeming to want to go communist)

Basically...alot of the stuff I read on the first few pages seemed like stuff someone stole from a pamphlet that was written by a child who didn't know how to research or had any understandings of how economics works.

So...what are the main arguments here?
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