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*sigh*

common - stay on track

and Highballin - with as much experience as you have set an example - and do not feed into silly comments...

ok?
OK But what happened to freedom of speech.??????????
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Freedom of speech is fine -

But do not take one of my topics and run into the woods with it with bickering and arguing over moot points.

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Pretty much the same here, except at UPS we paid the initiation fee in quarters over the course of four weeks.




I've never heard of Teamsters and Equipment Operators...
O well thats two diff unions.The company was using both.We though they might pay good and at the time fuel was high.They payed the truck by the hour but driver had to be Teamster.BTW pay was not great.$20 per hour.no per dem.
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OK But what happened to freedom of speech.??????????
You are correct on freedom of speech. A lot of people died for that cause. We all have an opinion on here no matter how dopey they may seem.

Ziggystyles. You seem to have a great distaste for union drivers. Why is that? Your profile shows that you have been a trucker from 0-1 years. It should be more by now. Have you ever worked as a union driver? If not, how do you feel qualified to make the statements that you do? You are entitled to your opinion and that is a given. Nevertheless, unless you were a "union driver", you opinion holds no water. Just rambling in my opinion. Maybe even a touch of jealousy?

This is all coming from a non union driver that is paid by the hour with overtime as well. Just because you chose where you work and how they pay, don't trash others that are paid by the hour. You always seem to be agianst those that have a better pay system. My company chose to pay us that way. Companies that are union sat down and agreed to the terms of their contract. You agreed to the terms your companies pay and benefits. Yet you seem to fault those that are better?

Good pay is good pay. Whether it is hourly, mileage or salary. Please don't give us the old song and dance about work ethic, honest pay for honest work or drivers are just sucking the money out of the company and don't complain when your job goes away. We all have different work ethics. Some are better than others. It's human nature. You are not special. I think most drivers work an honest days work. Unfortunately, not always for an honest days pay. That is evident by the posts on this site.

As for jobs going away, there is no guarantee on anything. Except dying. Period. That goes for union contracts as well.

You will continue to post and others will continue to laugh. Until you have a little more than one year experience, I will continue to challenge your remarks. There are many hard working men and women who drive trucks for good companies, have good wages and benefits and keep america moving. To all of those, I thank you.
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let us get back on track here -

wages for the common carrier...


question ...


what is the normal pay range for non union LTL carriers nowadays?

for experienced? new drivers (little experience) - students???


I remember starting out for the Skunk at like 15 cpm way back when...
OUCH!!! I thought I was getting screwed by Swift when I started.. I must have been overpaid at 24 cpm..... I should be rich, but I have nothing to show for it. Come to think of it, I probably spent 200-300 bucks a week at the truck stop, and brought home a hefty 50 to 100 bucks for mama. I think I still have that dog house she put me in!
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OUCH!!! I thought I was getting screwed by Swift when I started.. I must have been overpaid at 24 cpm..... I should be rich, but I have nothing to show for it. Come to think of it, I probably spent 200-300 bucks a week at the truck stop, and brought home a hefty 50 to 100 bucks for mama. I think I still have that dog house she put me in!

OK - now we are back on track -

24cpm at Swift - How long ago was this...???

I remember back in the late 90's they paid 19 cpm per diem.
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OK - now we are back on track -

24cpm at Swift - How long ago was this...???

I remember back in the late 90's they paid 19 cpm per diem.
2002 was the year. I think I got a raise or two in my 6 months there. What the heck was I thinking ? Become a truck driver and make some real money out on the road, NOT
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This argument wouldn't exist if the trucking transportation sector was in the Fair Wages Act.

Drivers should be paid for all time representing their respective employer.

Whether it be fueling, loading, unloading, waiting, broke-down, so on and so forth.

Unfortunetely it will never change.

If you work at Burger King for 8 hours a day five days a week, and then walk across the street and work at McDonald's for another 8 hours in those same five days, you can make $45k too- while working the same hours. Plus you'd be home everyday.
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This argument wouldn't exist if the trucking transportation sector was in the Fair Wages Act.

Drivers should be paid for all time representing their respective employer.

Whether it be fueling, loading, unloading, waiting, broke-down, so on and so forth.

Unfortunetely it will never change.

If you work at Burger King for 8 hours a day five days a week, and then walk across the street and work at McDonald's for another 8 hours in those same five days, you can make $45k too- while working the same hours. Plus you'd be home everyday.

Your exactly right, but I would rather drive OTR then flip burgers. I enjoy driving truck. DRIVE SAFE
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This argument wouldn't exist if the trucking transportation sector was in the Fair Wages Act.

Drivers should be paid for all time representing their respective employer.

Whether it be fueling, loading, unloading, waiting, broke-down, so on and so forth.

Unfortunetely it will never change.

If you work at Burger King for 8 hours a day five days a week, and then walk across the street and work at McDonald's for another 8 hours in those same five days, you can make $45k too- while working the same hours. Plus you'd be home everyday.
Well I dunno. This is a grand idea and I too would like to be paid for everything as well. I guess in my book, I am since Im salaried. Im paid to do my job, no matter how slow or fast I am. I like it that way. What could we do to change it?

By the hour? Eh...this would be accompanied by the sound of a airplane nosediving into the ground. Paying workers an hourly rate is a great idea...however the large companies are going to be ed over in the end by their drivers who take their time to milk out as many hours as possible. I know many others on here who are hourly say that cant happen, say it wouldnt happen...etc. But lets shoot straight; there is no way to ensure prompt delivery, zero waste of time...etc. And heck, if you pay a driver 30-x bucks an hour to drive a truck...don't tell me that 'taking their time' wouldnt happen at all. Id be more inclined to say it happens more than not.

Pay Salary? I like this idea as it pays no matter what. However, Im sure others would complain if they had to do more work / driving than others. NOt a real good way to get around this either unless you set the salary at a minimum work level, and then paid a bit more for additional driving or whatever that wasnt planned.

And then either way, the pay goes back to what I've been bringing up quite often on here...competitive pay. Lots of wages are through the roof for a job that one can do after learning in a classroom for 2 weeks.
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