There is some good horror stories about union harrassment.When on strike bussinesses next door get harrassed and I have seen some of the drunks walking pickets.

why not find those incidents you refer to - and post them in the "why I hate unions" thread?

I would really like to stay on topic with the whole McGovern / Card Check topic.

thanks

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Seems to me that the only way to counteract undue influence from both union and management is the secret ballot. The side pushing for the card check or open ballot is usually the one that will assert threats and such.

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You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.

for those who still are unsure of the terminology...


Card check

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Card check is a method of organizing employees into a [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. in which employers enter into an agreement to recognize the unionization of its employees if a majority of employees in a [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. sign authorization forms, or "cards".




Card check in the United States

The methods to recognize a union in the United States both begin with a employee petition for representation by a union. If more than 30% of employees, but less than a clear majority, sign petition cards requesting representation the cards are submitted to the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , known as the NLRB, to hold a secret ballot election. If more than 50% of employees certify their desire for representation, an union can choose to form using card check procedures. Under current U.S. law, the employer need not recognize the card check petition and can require a secret-ballot vote overseen by the NLRB. Under the proposed [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , an employer could only challenge a card check petition if fraud or illegal coercion was alleged.
Chief Justice [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , a [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. appointee, delivered the majority opinion for the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. in 1969 upholding the use of card check. Warren stated, "Almost from the inception of the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , then, it was recognized that a union did not have to be certified as the winner of a Board election to invoke a bargaining obligation; it could establish majority status by other means... by showing convincing support, for instance, by a union-called strike or strike vote, or, as here, by possession of cards signed by a majority of the employees authorizing the union to represent them for collective bargaining purposes.' The Supreme Court has consistantly ruled in favor of card check and Warren cited prior affirmations in NLRB v. Bradford Dyeing Assn., 310 U.S. 318, 339 -340 (1940); Franks Bros. Co. v. NLRB, 321 U.S. 702 (1944); United Mine Workers v. Arkansas Flooring Co., 351 U.S. 62 (1956)[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.
Under the proposed [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , introduced in the United States Congress in 2005 and again in 2007, the NLRB would recognize the union's role as the official bargaining representative if a majority of employees have authorized that representation via card check, without requiring a secret ballot election. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. It was passed by the House on [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , but failed a cloture vote in the Senate. The Employee Free Choice Act allows employees to choose a [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. process to elect union representation if they do not desire a card check election, but employers are required to accept whichever method employees choose.
Organized labor groups argue that the card check process is preferable to traditional NLRB elections because it avoids the anti-union campaigns that can accompany elections and leads to healthier workplace relations by avoiding a direct confrontation between employer and its employees. Critics of card check organizing argue that the process takes away employees' right to vote for or against the union in a secret ballot and permits union intimidation of workers.

History of U.S. card check

Under the NLRB's Joy Silk Doctrine established in 1949 "an employer could lawfully refuse to bargain with a union claiming representative status through possession of authorization cards only if he had a 'good faith doubt' as to the union's majority status."[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. This policy was changed in 1966 with the ruling in Aaron Brothers, 158 N. L. R. B. 1077 where "the Board made it clear that it had shifted the burden to the General Counsel to show bad faith and that an employer 'will not be held to have violated his bargaining obligation... simply because he refuses to rely upon cards.'" [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. If passed the proposed [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. would return the NLRB policy to the Joy Silk Doctrine and allow employer challenges to card check elections only when illegal coercion is charged.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Thereby usurping any voter who only signed the card out of fear of retribution. But intended to vote no, behind closed doors.

If this is not a clear cut case of organized intimidation, through legal manipulation of the Democratic process. I don't know what is.

And no amount of propaganda can prove otherwise.

Be very careful, what you wish for. You might wake up one morning, to find out you are considered an enemy of the State and subject to immediate imprisonment...because enough people signed a card that supported Communism or outright Apartheid.

And a vote was never held.

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It's hard for me to play professional team sports. On a minor league salary.

Personally I want to know who stands where. I mean who wants to be next to one of management's little brownies without knowing it. My God, you could probably catch something disgusting from one of them.
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A red is any son-of-a-##### that wants thirty cents an hour when we’re payin’ twenty-five!’"
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At least everyone knows where the Union stands...right?

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Team Players.....
It's hard for me to play professional team sports. On a minor league salary.

card check, let the working stiff have a voice.

You'll have a voice...equal too mine on November 4 2008. Now get over yourself. You're not better than me.

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Team Players.....
It's hard for me to play professional team sports. On a minor league salary.

I thought we were on the topic of card check? Not Nov 4th. I guess I'm better than you, at least I can remember the topic. Card Check... Let me guess... your afraid to stand up for or against a union? I have many friends who are nonunion, voted no and are proud to be nonunion...and I respect their rights.