Thanks for the info but if my math is correct 7,000 workers out of 20,000 is more like 30% , not "only 3%" .
But you may also know something I was curious about . DHL sold franchises to areas and franchisees contracted O/O 's with vans . These van owners would be independent contractors , not employees of DHL . Were any of these O/O's Teamsters ? What if a franchisee bought owned trucks and hired drivers ? These drivers wouldn't be DHL employees either , would they ? Would they have bargaining rights or benefit from a contract ? If those drivers and O/O's were not employees of DHL that adds considerably to the number of people out of work above the quoted number of employees .

7000 out of 266,432 (worldwide..)


anyway


a lot of their "leased guys" were operating under teamster negotiated contracts...

not common in my area - but some local 728 and local 705 guys know more about it.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Thing I don't understand about Dems and card check/supervised voting is that while they favor it to help unions they tend to prefer secret ballots when their necks are on the line. Case in point...When it was time to decide whether to punish Lieberman for his support of McCain that vote was done secret ballot style. I have no way of knowing how my Dem Sen voted. I could ask her but have know way of checking her answer. Seems to me each one can claim they were against Lieberman to their radical supporters and for mercy to the more moderate middle.

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HOW CAN A STRANGER TELL IF TWO PEOPLE ARE MARRIED?
You might have to guess, based on whether they seem to be yelling at the same kids.

Exactly Right! I was listening to Glenn Beck last week and he mentioned this...how the people that are FOR the Card Check and supervised (hey...we know how you voted) voting.....THEY themselves voted secretly in the issue with Joe. The thing that ticks me off, is the fact this crap came up because he supported McCain. Yeah...apparently having values is no longer important.

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If you ask the guys at UPS Freight about card check - most will tell you it worked out well - and was the fairest way to ensure a "clean vote"...

How democratic is card check????

The whole process is open and democratic.

You decide if you want to sign an authorization card. (no one knows)

You decide whether to vote "yes" on joining the union.

You decide which co-workers you want on your negotiating team.

You decide what to tell your negotiators you want in a contract.

You vote on the contract once it's negotiated.

You vote on who will be your shop steward.

You vote on who will be the officers of your local.

Once all of this is done - then you in turn are held to a higher standard (weeds out a lot of the bottom feeders) and to this higher standard you get on average a 30-40% pay increase.


Regrading the bottom feeders - These are the guys that have had numerous claims against them - and multiple accidents - the ones with attendance problems and work issues... THEY are the first that do not want a Union because they know they will not only be supervised by the companies "boss" - but also by their fellow brothers and sisters.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

From what I have read and heard about the Card Check program...secret ballots are no longer.....you know who voted what. And then, lol well with that info...you know who to go after and harass until they cave in and vote yes.

And from what I understand, the card check program would take the place of a regular vote...its results would count as a vote for a union instead of the secret ballot.

Old way:
"Hey, everyone...we are here together to decide if we want to unionize...take these ballots, vote your decision, and put it in the box and when everyone is finished we will count the votes"

New Way:
"So...Frank...wanna help us unionize here? Just...here just sign this petition"

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associate production coordinating directorial associate managing deparmental divisional office supervisor of the international network amalgamation distributors corporation management organizational association of men who drive trucks.

It really does not work that way. (in practice).

I know first hand that card check at UPS F (Overnite) in Cincy led to the company harassing and messing with many of the guys and gals who fought hard to organize.

If anything - the Teamsters are much more catious about leaning on people than Company management is.

3 managers in Cincy were told that their jobs would be eliminated if their "boys" were organized - and told to do "whatever" to prevent it.

This all wound up in district court - and the showing rvealed that Overnite's Management used several things including

when a secret ballot was counted on wether or not to organize - there were 17 "no" votes from employees that no longer worked for Overnite at the time of the Vote...


the No's had it - by 7 votes - so the Teamsters were turned away.

shady.

All of that was revealed when the Judge looked inot why a termnal with 187 employees had 204 ballots.


water under the bridge now -

Overnite is UPS-F

they are Organized - and things are working out well.

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

Where does the 30% to 40% more pay come from? Its one thing for the huge companies, what about the smaller ones. The mom and pops that are treating their people fairly with fair pay. If I were forced to unionize my company, and felt like I was doing right by my people, I would shut the door.
We had a similar situation in a small garment/textile plant here years ago. The owner asked the workers that were trying to get the union voted in "Do you have enough money to live the rest of your life, because I do". He would have shut it down in a heartbeat. That put an end to union talks in a hurry.
Im not saying they dont serve a purpose where needed, but it seems to me that its become an industry in itself. I didnt think that was the original purpose of a union.

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I AM A FLATBEDDER, I TRAVEL WITH ALL EQUIPMENT NECCESSARY. CHAINS (FOR THE UNRULEY ONES), STRAPS (FOR THE SEMI-UNRULEY ONES), AND TARPS (FOR THE ONES NOT TO BE SEEN WITH YOU)!

I know a mom and pop company right here in Cincy that offered me a whopping 28 cpm...

and you get 1 whole day off for every 6000 miles you run...


wow.

Is this what you meant by "treating their employees fairly?"

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Faster than a 60 MPH bullet....

One of the smaller company's I looked into recently offered 6 days off a month,..to include resets on the road,and you can't carry them over....

As much as I need a job and as broke as I am,....I'm not moving into a truck and staying in it......

I'll keep looking for a ltl gig,...preferably union.....