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Old 11.24.2008
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Why most Teamsters do not use the 34 hour reset...

Someone asked me some time ago if this was true - and it is...

Speaking on the 34 hour reset (Which most Teamster Companies do not use) the reason is pretty clear.

If you have 100 guys all using the 34 hour reset once a week - instead of bumping their 70 and waiting to pick up hours you eliminate about 5 drivers who would be needed to cover loads for others "out of hours".

SO by not allowing the 34 hour reset - we have about 1200 more drivers nationally available than if we applied the 34 hour reset.

The point is this - The sort of trucking I do is geared towards having a home life. And using the 34 not only keeps you out, away, and available - but cuts great paying jobs for many other younger guys.

(we are in our own beds at home with family at a MINIMUM of 3 nights a week - and average of 5 nights a week - some 7 nights a week)

If we used the 34 - we would probably run a skeleton crew - and be running our butts into the ground.
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If you are off two days each week, it is the same thing.
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not really - the 34 allows you to wipe the 70 clean - picking up two zeros 7 days from now will force me to lay and pick up hours at home.

(or lay on the road in a hotel and get paid hourly while I do so)
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not really - the 34 allows you to wipe the 70 clean - picking up two zeros 7 days from now will force me to lay and pick up hours at home.

(or lay on the road in a hotel and get paid hourly while I do so)

Having 48 hours off at home for two days is just like having a 34 hour restart.

Failure to use the restart to reset the hours would not increase drivers or whatever.

Just because you take two days off, does not mean you have to use the 34 hour reset.

But to use the reset as an excuse for more drivers is not right. You are taking more time off than the reset would require.

In addition, working 5 days a week, I never used more than 60 hours and did not need to use the reset when I was a relay driver. Oops, I was not in the Teamsters either.
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It is about availabilty 'Medic...

having a clean slate for everyone at my terminal would allow the company to get by with fewer drivers on call every week -

we do not run OTR weeks ata time - but we have to have enough hours to start and return on our boomerangs and 3 bed stops.


Like I said - the situation is specific to LTL linehaul.
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So, you can TAKE the restart, but don't fill out your logs like that?



Am I correct?
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NO -

we do not use the restart at all - it is not recognized by our Companies or Union...

In line haul - if we used the reset - then we would not need a fill in guy on our 8th and 9th day...

For every 10 linehaul guys using a 34 hour reset - it would cost 1 "extra" driver.
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NO -

we do not use the restart at all - it is not recognized by our Companies or Union...

In line haul - if we used the reset - then we would not need a fill in guy on our 8th and 9th day...

For every 10 linehaul guys using a 34 hour reset - it would cost 1 "extra" driver.
That is the craziest thing that I have ever heard. I do LTL linehaul(although not for a union company) and I utilize my 34 hour reset every week, so does everybody else at our company, obviously that is one more thing that the union has you snowed on. I get home usually on Saturday Morn and then I dont go back until Monday night more than 48 hours later usually, so I use my 34 hour reset along with the almost 6500 drivers that we have around the nation that do LTL Linehaul. If we didnt use that 34 hour restart we would all be out of hours by about TUE, and then they would have to hire more drivers to get the same results. Im not sure where you are getting this idea from, but the only company that I know that doesnt use it is you guys at Roadway and Yellow. even the other union LTL's use that restart. Why would you not use it???? BTW, in case you are wondering DOT and FMCSA trump your union rules and they recognise any time that you are off duty more than 34 hours as your restart. The companies here in Indy have gone round and round about that, and it is fact. BTW, what you are talking about is not linehaul, it is OTR--Linehaul means that you can do it in less than the 14 hour clock--that means start at base- run out, do whatever, reload and run back to base before your 14 hours run out.

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I don't use it, I am a teamster and work about 50 hours a week. I am home every night and like having the extra time with my family. Nobody said on their deathbed "I should have worked more!"
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I use it now. I didn't think I would like it but I do. We used the old 15 on 8 off for a long time.

Just a little background. While we are a nationwide chemical distributor, my facility is located in southern California. We only work Monday thru Friday. We can only work a 60 hour week since we are not normally open on the weekends.

We found that we had to change to the interstate rule since we ship (by common carrier) hazardous waste out of state. I don't get it but we only do what they want us to do.

It works well for me. I like knowing that I can work as hard and as long as I can in the beginning of the week and have just a few hours left for Friday. They still pay 8 hours but I get to start the weekend a little earlier. It doesn't happen very week though. As I said, it works for me.
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