Absolutely necessary? Hardly they have to hire out casuals because they lose money every year just like Amtrak.

I remember when you would go years in between postal rate increases yet now they want to raise them every other year because of the cost of legacy payments and Unions who strive for low productivity and high pay.

The USPS is another dinosaur like the newspapers. E-mail and on line bill paying along with competition by superior carriers who have to be conscious of customer service and get the package to you in 1 piece. Gov will not bail them out like they keep doing with the USPS.

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I don't know that Lilbit is pro union,...But I do know she does what a moderator does on a web forum,...She moderates,.....And she does a fine job of it...

Well I don't think I questioned this mods competency in being a moderator. So the purpose of the attack and gang up and cheerleading escapes me, except that you are pro-union also and you where thanked by the mod. So the proof is in the pudding.

I really don't need someone following me around misrepresenting my posts by saying that I am attacking posters by having a opinion that is not pro Union.

THAN I suggest you find a more suitable board to post on ... because this union forum is for discussion and not hatred.

Your statements make no sense . You give no logical reason why unions aren't necessary . Rather , you confirm the need for union protection because of poor management . Hire out casuals ? That has been done in violation of contract and the USPS paid millions in settlements because of it to local after local . [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. . The union would have a suit filed over the use of casuals at a local in one part of the country and the USPS would continue using casuals in other locals in other parts of the country . All the locals sued and won .
Now if the other carriers are so superior why is UPS beginning a program to have USPS carriers pick up UPS returns to be brought to the post office for UPS to pick up . As far as getting packages delivered in one piece I've seen more UPS and FedEx trucks on their side with packages scattered on the highway than USPS trucks . We know you opinions aren't going to change but you have a right to express your opinion . But if you think your opinions are convincing ...

"Well the Labor Dept would disagree"

I got my figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I'm sure you'll find some way to twist those, though.

I am not trying to defend all of the "bad" unions have done, I know this first hand because I worked in manufacturing and in aerospace, where unions are faltering. I worked non-union for most of my career, and decided to give hem a shot after listening to all of the anti-union zealots and their diatribes about them, go figure!!!! Besides, companies, I have found, can be as EVIL as any other organization out there, PERIOD.

As much as some people say unions should be done away with because they are not needed; they won't be, because some of us don't care what they want. For us, it's not so much a question of "Do we need unions?", as is "Do we want unions?". My company is not public sector and has non-union competition. But, unions have a stronghold in certain areas of heavy construction in which the biggest and most capable contractors are, you guessed it, UNION!!!

Since this is a trucking website, He is correct in pointing out the trucking aspect. When people here talk about unions, they are talking about the trucking industry unions. Why would you think that they would be talking about some other type of work? That makes no sence at all.

AND for the record, I am neither PRO nor ANTI union, or perhaps it's both.

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Striking union offers to return to Oak Harbor Freight
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"No winners here " .That from a teamster official . Another teamster official said " Nobody wins in a strike" when workers ended a strike against Waste Management . Wouldn't another way of putting that be "Everybody loses in a strike " ?

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